building a expedition ready rig what would you do??

[stomper]

Greg, Do you need a partner on this expedition? 2 vehicles is the best option!

[ducttape]

Greg, Do you need a partner on this expedition? 2 vehicles is the best option!

Three...

[LR Max]

Well I'd get the rig where I could drive it comfortably all day and not say to myself, "This is dismal and I want to go home" nor wonder if the stupid thing is gonna explode.

Example: Right now my radiator leaks and my door weatherstripping is useless. I wouldn't take it on an expedition just because I would be miserable the entire time.

So right there, if you can't go on a weekend camping trip, you have issues.

Totally would go through the entire drivetrain. New clutch, bearings, seals. All that crap is either worn out or will be worn out. Also a more powerful engine would be VERY nice, especially in the US.

Diff lockers, most def. That expedition across the Congo REALLY made me glad I'm locked up. I think they would've saved themselves A LOT of trouble if they had a diff locker.

Storage: Need to be able to get to everything easily and not have to tear apart the truck to get to it. Rovers have spots all over to store crap. Use them.

Rear spare tire carrier. Fin.

Some way to easily setup for sleeping. Either rooftop tent, or tent cot or sleep inside or Dormobile...whatever. Make it happen.

Strong suspension and tires. Probably BFG A/Ts. They'll last forever and ever.

Front bumper. Some of these foreign countries are rough on the highways. IMO, better to do the pushing than to be receiving it.

Quality camping supplies. Nice sleeping bag + nice pad will do more for me than a fancy flashlight.

AWESOME travelling companion. Dunno how you quantify that, but there it is. Having an extra set of capable hands or a smooth talker in another language...or just having a talker can be great. For me, it would probably be my Dad. Communication is great, he is skilled in hands on crafts and we can joke about BS for hours on hours.

Sound system. I like music. My car (not the 109, my car) is all decked out with all the stuff. I would need that just because I can't stand the noise of the 2.25 all the time.

This last thing: I know it sounds craptacular, but I'm beginning to think it would make the world of difference: The Internets. Not like, surf on the internet all day but if I need important information, I can get it. Need a new podcast? New Music? Got it. Also its always great to get an email from home or send an email and let them know I'm good. This can be in the form of a smart phone, or sat-internet-thingie or whatever. Either way, it would be a nice asset to have.

All the other things will just kinda fall into place.

[yorker]

OK, is it just me, or do these two individuals sum-up Series ownership!

My thoughts exactly! Take what you have and go out there! It has been done before and you too can do it.

Don't get caught up in all the gear geek goodies, get out and drive.

[albersj51]

If my rover weren't in pieces right now id be prepping for an expedition due to this thread!

[Tim Smith]

KB and TeriAnn are both right on. Perhaps written from different perspectives.

The thing is, know your truck and you'll be able to see your way out of most problems (because you will have brought spares). As you get more time out on the road or the trails then you'll know what you need best.

If you made the thread title "What would you do to your truck to make it expedition ready", you would probably get a lot more talk about the goodies. For me it would be the upgraded half shafts and a beefier differential. A locker depends on what you want to do with it. Overdrive is nice for the long highway runs but not essential.

[JimCT]

I think allot of it depends on where you will be going. If you are off the beaten path you do not want a truck with all kinds of one off custom features, in that case simple is key. On the other hand if your trips are in the states for example, and your pocket book can handle it customize to your hearts desire.

[robert wood]

I think I'm qualified to comment having owned an expedition company using IIA trucks. I'm generally on trek somewhere for part of the year with a 1983 110.

Mechanical stuff relating to series

Good quality parabolic springs. Assuming this is a 109 get the four leaf version and avoid the ones with dangling lower leaves. Good quality Shocks. My experience with OME has been good. Fit check straps as this prevents over-extension of the shocks

If you have a Series IIA, upgrade to the Salisbury axle from a Series III 109. Replace the drive flanges and axles before you leave.

Overdrive. Most of what you do is going to be on highways where it will be in use all the time and give you a very useful splitter ratio too. I used a Fairy on my longest wanderings and did not have problems as it was brand new when I left. I since designed the Roverdrive which I like to think is more robust. Don't go with a high ratio transfer box as the IIA motor will not pull much weight with this fitted.

Offset wheels. The later 109s use a wheel offset outwards by almost two inches and this gives much more stability and a smaller turning radius. Our hosts sell these (part ANR3646pm). I avoid the Wolf version as I think they are too heavy.

Front disc brakes are nice but a good alternative is the six cylinder drum type and fit a booster from a Series III.

I'd stay with a late IIA Gearbox suffix D E or F to get the stronger layshaft and better clutch release assembly. I'm not fond of Series III box - the later suffix ones are good but there are so many changes in part numbers getting correct parts is puzzeling and frustrating. SIIA parts can be found almost anywhere.

Put on a bigger alternator and the best headlights you can get and the biggest best battery that can fit in the tray. Strips of reflective tape right across the back are valuable anywhere and mandatory in parts of Africa.

If it is a IIA you can increase the compression to 8:1 by taking 0.111 off the head. Use a black composition head gasket and hardened exhaust valves. Use the simple Weber carb. With the overdrive you will have a very sweet spot for the Weber at about 55mph. A five main bearing engine would be nice.

Fit an electric fuel pump mounted at the tank. In very hot climates the flow of fuel only just cools the mechanical pump and when you stop fuel in the pump vaporizes and you can't drive off. With a 109 on a steep grade the problem is worse as the pump has to draw fuel uphill from the tank.

Well installed soundproofing is money well spent. I'm in my seventies and hard of hearing from driving Series all my life.

A strong secure locker somewhere to keep valuables is a must as is an immobilizer which need be nothing more than a hidden tap in the fuel line.

The antiburst locks someone has suggested above is a good idea and the 110 mirror system is a huge improvement on the series type.

Add a second fuel tank and avoid Jerry cans. A built in water tank is undesirable. Use rectangular shaped water cans and stow them marked so you know what water is drinkable and what is not.

You can tell an inexperienced expedition truck owner from miles away as the depth of his ignorance is inversely proportional to the size and weight of his roof rack and content thereof. All we have on the roof of our II0 is a tent and the area forward of the tent is a great big sunroof so we can stand up or sit on the roof in game parks which is awesome.

I am blessed with a wife who can cross Africa with one change of clothes and a toothbrush. Pictures of our recent expeditions are on the Roverdrive website and look out for us in our in North Africa April and May next year. Happy Christmas.................

Ray

[RoverForm]

I think the following video pretty much sums up the MUST-HAVES for "expedition" travel:

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7348071/

extremely informative...

[TeriAnn]

You can tell an inexperienced expedition truck owner from miles away as the depth of his ignorance is inversely proportional to the size and weight of his roof rack and content thereof

Add a second fuel tank and avoid Jerry cans. A built in water tank is undesirable. Use rectangular shaped water cans and stow them marked so you know what water is drinkable and what is not.

I fully agree with Ray when it comes to roof rack loads. These trucks have a very narrow track and anything you can do to lower the vehicle centre of gravity helps. I have seen heavily loaded Defenders and Series trucks tip over where they would not have with a much lighter or no load.

My 109 2 door has a rear station wagon fuel tank and two front under seat tanks for a total of 42 gallons of fuel at the frame level. If I carried extra fuel it would be in a trailer and not on the roof.

I disagree with Ray about built in water tanks, but mine is feeding two sinks inside the Dormobile with an electric pump. I found unused space at frame level that doesn't not take up any interior space and had a stainless steel water tank fabricated to fit in the space. It holds the equivalent of three 20L gerry cans of water, all at frame level to help keep the centre of gravity as low as possible and not taking up any usable interior space.

The tank has a removable top access hatch for doing visual inspections and manual cleaning if needed. There is also a drain plug at a bottom corner for easy draining. The key is to sanitize the tank with bleach periodically. I sanitize the tank every 3 months. When I'm around home I do not keep a filter in the water filter assembly because one can easily grow algae/bacteria or other micro organisms if it is just left sitting with stagnant water. When I go on trips I insert a fresh filter. For my set up I think a built in makes sense and really helps to keep the weight low. But they do require frequent sanitation like the big RV tanks.

I often feel a bit embarrassed by the amount of gear I load onto the roof rack for trips. But I keep the rear interior empty to provide space for a giant breed dog. I have a built in 5 gallon propane tank, again at frame level. I've discovered that it always runs out of propane while I am cooking dinner and the food is too uncooked to eat. So I have a 2 gallon spare aluminum propane tank that I keep on the roof rack inside a section of ABS pipe. Also since I do not have a way to tell the water level in my built in tank beyond experience, I have a surplus 10L French wine gerry can that is lined that I fill with water and store on the roof rack (under but close to 25 lbs full).

I have a foot and a half square sheet of thick plywood that goes on the rack to put under a jack if I need to use one. A folding camp chair, And I have a plastic tote that goes up there as well. The tote carries a short water hose I can use for refilling my water tank, a propane hose for connecting my spare propane tank, Sometimes a long extension cord (I can run the Dormobile electrics off the mains if I'm in a campground) a nylon tarp if I need an awning, a roll of thick nylon twine for tying down the nylon tarp, two axle jacks, and a grease gun. I fear the tote could weigh about 30 lbs including the two axle jacks. My guess is between 65 and 75 lbs total load on my roof rack when I'm on a long trip. I try to keep weight down as much as I can but I need to keep the rear of the truck empty.

Someone mentioned All terrain tyres. They work in some surfaces but not on others. Again, the better you can define where you want to drive and what you want your truck to do the better you can figure out what works and what would just be extra useless weight. Start off on short trips of the kind you want to do and gain experience. There is no substitute for experience to help you decide what you need and what you don't. Try not to add gear beyond the minimum basics until experience tells you that you actually need it. Off road bling costs money, adds weight, takes up space and can leave your truck less capable for the kind of travel you do.

And as someone else mentioned a good measure of of how successful your gear is for the travel you intend to do is your comfort level. How long can you go and still be eager to see what's over the next hill verses the desire to head home or find a motel where you can get a good nights sleep, a shower, get clean and buy a good meal.