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    Quote Originally Posted by TeriAnn View Post
    First thing to be aware of is that the stock tyre dia for a 109 is 32 inches. The second thing is that there are different width and diameter factory wheels. 109 wheels are 16 inch dia. Older ones (possibly yours) are 5 inch bead to bead width. 88's had an optional 15 inch dia wheel.

    109 16 inch wheel got progressively wider through the years with 6 inches the widest. There is a 6-1/2" wide Defender wheel that fits Series trucks and a 7" wide Discovery I slotted steel wheel that fit Series trucks (what is under my 1960 109).

    You do not want to go taller than about 33-34 inches in dia without modifying a stock 109 civilian suspension.

    With that in mind you want 32 inch dia tyres that are within the tyre manufacturer's specifications to fit the bead to bead width of the rim you have or switch to.

    The stock tyre size is 750/16 which is an obsolete tyre size system. The closest to that in a modern system is 235/85-16. But the 235/85-16 rim width specification is 6" to 7" bead to bead. Your rims may be narrower. If you have the old narrower wheels I recommend that you pick up a set of newer wider wheels. Ike at pangolin4x4 should be able to set you up with used wider rims at a reasonable cost. Or considering shipping from the West cost you might do better with a new set from RN.

    We all have our favorite brands of tyres, tread patterns and size so you are likely to receive different recommendations. No one tyre is best for all driving situations. So what is optimum for one person in another part of the country may not work all that well for you and where you drive.

    The first decade I had my 109 I tried different tyres until I found one that fit my driving well. For the last 25 or so years my tuck has been shod with BFG Goodrich Mud Terrains. I don't feel that they are THE best tyre for any particular driving situation but they are good under a wide range of driving situations. I look at them as a very good jack of most terrains. They are good in all mud but the sticky gumbo mud that refuses to be thrown off the tyre. They are very good on all dirt surfaces. They grip well on rocks and have armored side belts that help protect them from sidewall rock cuts. Mud tyres are not the best choice for deep soft sand.

    I like the BFG mud terrains because they are very good for most of the surfaces I drive on, they are reasonably quiet and have a long tread wear. I have the Disco I 7" wide steel wheels and the larger LT255/85R16 tyres. I like this combination a lot. I have run LT265/75R16 tires on the 7 inch rims in the past. This is a stock D90 tyre size requiring the 7 inch rim. The only issue I had was that under extreme articulation the inside of the rear wheels polished the inside of the inner wheel wells. No damage, just the slightest of rubs. I went to the slightly narrower taller LT255/85R16 tyres just to get a little extra ground clearance.

    I like reading these posts as I learn a great deal, especially when Teriann posts! I still have the tires that it came with from the PO, I will have to change them this summer when I finally register it, and start driving it. Mostly because the truck came from Georgia, and the tires that are on it, are not for the kind of extremes in weather we get here in New England, and they kind of scare me. Unfortunately I have the older narrower rims the Teriann has said are obsolete, so I'll have to source new steel rims

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    http://www.roamoffroad.com/wheels.phpor, you could just go this route!
    Bad gas mileage gets you to some of the greatest places on earth.

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    1970 IIA 88"
    Installed 4 215/85-16 Goodyear Dura trac's late last year. They have the winter snow flake rating, made in USA. Think I paid $800ish for the set. I've been very pleased with snow/ice performace and mud/light off road. As for noise the Rover covers up anything the tires might make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partsman View Post
    Unfortunately I have the older narrower rims the Teriann has said are obsolete, so I'll have to source new steel rims
    Not necessarily. I have (as well as many other owners) 235/85-16's on stock rover rims and have NEVER lost a tire off the bead, even when aired down. I wouldn't put that tire on a 5" rim but seems to be fine on a 5.5" and 6" rim.
    Last time I looked for a 7.50-16 I found that Pete's tire and oil in Webster could still get them for you. They aren't really obsolete, just not common anymore. That's why I personally wouldn't put that size on. A 235/85 you can get just about anywhere as is the case with any metric size tire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Leak Oil View Post
    Not necessarily. I have (as well as many other owners) 235/85-16's on stock rover rims and have NEVER lost a tire off the bead, even when aired down. I wouldn't put that tire on a 5" rim but seems to be fine on a 5.5" and 6" rim.
    Last time I looked for a 7.50-16 I found that Pete's tire and oil in Webster could still get them for you. They aren't really obsolete, just not common anymore. That's why I personally wouldn't put that size on. A 235/85 you can get just about anywhere as is the case with any metric size tire.
    I'll call Pete at home tonight, he's one of my best friends, we've known each other since high school. If they're getting rare, I can have him get me 5 and hold them til I'm ready to install.

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    The world gets smaller every day.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Leak Oil View Post
    The world gets smaller every day.....
    I grew up in Webster, remember my Land Rover on Cudworth Rd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partsman View Post
    I grew up in Webster, remember my Land Rover on Cudworth Rd?
    I miss it every day I drive to and from work......
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Leak Oil View Post
    Not necessarily. I have (as well as many other owners) 235/85-16's on stock rover rims and have NEVER lost a tire off the bead, even when aired down. I wouldn't put that tire on a 5" rim but seems to be fine on a 5.5" and 6" rim.
    What people put on their own truck is their own business as far as I'm concerned. But be aware that many reputable tyre shops will not mount a tyre on a rim that is outside the manufacturer's specification. For both safety and liability reasons.

    If you get into an accident potentially caused by any sort of tyre or wheel malfunction and get sued an insurance investigator will likely check to see if the tyre size is correct for the wheel & vehicle. If it is out of spec then you may find your insurance unwilling to pay, yourself and the company who sold you the tyres to be in litigation.

    A lot rides on your tyres and it never hurts to be within the manufacturer's specifications for safety. A six inch rim would be withing specs for that tyre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeriAnn View Post
    If you get into an accident potentially caused by any sort of tyre or wheel malfunction and get sued an insurance investigator will likely check to see if the tyre size is correct for the wheel & vehicle. If it is out of spec then you may find your insurance unwilling to pay, yourself and the company who sold you the tyres to be in litigation.
    Valid point perhaps but not much different than getting into an accident with a series rover that has a Ford V8, modified drive line, power steering and modified braking system though.
    The fact that you mounted a non standard size, radial tire can potentially get you in trouble too I suppose.

    This is America and you don't have to do ANYTHING wrong to be sued unfortunately.
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