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Thread: Weber Carb issue

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    Default Weber Carb issue

    I have the dual Weber carb on my 1965 Station wagon.

    Once started it runs great, drives great . . . once it is started . . .

    If it sits overnight it takes forever to start. It cranks and cranks and cranks eventually sputtering and spitting reluctantly before running.

    If I pour some gas down the carb it starts right up. So obviously a fuel problem.

    Any thoughts?
    1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
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    1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
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    I had the same issue with a Weber single carb. What is happening is that the gas in the fuel line drains back to the fuel pump. Others on this forum will know better than me whether this is indicative of a faulty mechanical fuel pump or something else. If anyone knows please speak up.

    In any case, one solution, and the one I adopted, is outlined on this forum. Here is the link:

    http://forums.roversnorth.com/showth...ighlight=facet

    It basically involves placing an electric fuel pump after the mechanical one. I installed an AIRTEX E8016S, Electric Pump; Solenoid;12 volts; 2.5-4.5 PSI; 30 GHP; 5/16 hose. Stay away from Mr. Gasket pumps, they're terrible. I wired it back to a switch in the cabin that is only active when the key is turned half on. I turn the key to get charge, flip the switch and let the electric pump run for a few seconds and then turn the key the rest of the way. It starts on the first try every time. It was very easy to wire. One wire to the cabin and a ground to a good ground in the engine bay. I put an inline fuse in the line to the cabin and the source of my 12 VDC is only on when the key is half on (i.e. when the car is on). Once the car is started I let the pump run a couple more seconds and then I turn the electric pump off. I'm pretty sure that if my mechanical pump ever stopped working I could just switch on the electric one and leave it on to get me where I needed to go.

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    I replaced my fuel pump.

    Worked like a charm.

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    I am going to try it - to me it doesn't make sense because I hand prime and when I do I get gas coming out of the hose (if I take the clamp off and pull the hose to check). But maybe it is just weak and needs a little extra nudge.

    Once its going it goes just fine.
    1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
    1965 109 SW - nearly running well
    1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
    1969 109 P-UP

    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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    Electric pump after the mechanical is a good solution. This has been gone over several times on this site. On/off switch under the dash also nice. This can be a back up for a failed mechanical pump when mounted after the mechanical pump with no risk of pumping gas to the crankcase. This set up works well with my Weber 34.

    Cheers
    Rob
    Bugeye88

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    The Carter 4070 electric pump has worked great with my 34. Remove the mechanical pump and don't look back, in my view. Carter also offers a power solenoid that works off of oil pressure: the solenoid needs to sense a bit of oil pressure before sending power to the pump. Conversely, it will shut the pump off when oil pressure goes away, preventing the pump from spewing gas after an accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedW View Post
    Carter also offers a power solenoid that works off of oil pressure: the solenoid needs to sense a bit of oil pressure before sending power to the pump. Conversely, it will shut the pump off when oil pressure goes away, preventing the pump from spewing gas after an accident.
    Interesting!
    1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
    1965 109 SW - nearly running well
    1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
    1969 109 P-UP

    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaneRover View Post
    Interesting!
    And I recall it set me back about $17.00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedW View Post
    And I recall it set me back about $17.00.
    Highway robbery! Luckily I don't go on the highway much . . .
    1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
    1965 109 SW - nearly running well
    1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
    1969 109 P-UP

    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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    Well I wish that worked . . . Got a pump temporarily wired it in and plumbed it right between the mechanical fuel pump and the carb. Let it pump fuel and then tried to start - got a big fat nothing, exactly the same as the mechanical pump. It definitely was pumping because I used it to pump a bit of extra gas into the carb throat and it started right up.

    I am pretty convinced it is the accelerator pump . . . any other thoughts?
    1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
    1965 109 SW - nearly running well
    1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
    1969 109 P-UP

    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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