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Thread: RRC Steering issue

  1. #1
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    Default RRC Steering issue

    OK, a bit of a scary trip into work this morning !

    I have a '95 RRC which is my daily driver and today we had some fun on the way down the road me and my Rangie. I hit a bump int he road, literally a bump, and the front end started to judder, actually more like oscillate from side to side ! After that first few milliseconds of 'What the.....' I braked and turned left slightly and the oscillation disappeared.

    Of course, now I knew how to stop it, I then spent the next 20 mins of the journey doing it again and again to try and diagnose. The main solution seems to be turn to the left slightly, but alternately, turning to the right substantially more will solve it also.

    So...... my thoughts are that the steering is loose, when I turn left I'm closer to 'catching' and get back control, but on turning right I have more slack to take up before I get 'bite'. Sound reasonable ?

    Next thing, how do I 'tighten' the steering ?

    Thanks guys,


    Andrew

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    try replacing pan hard rod bushings, oil wetness from p/s tends to ruin them... you can try to adjust steering box play, it's located on top of box
    loosen with a socket and then hold with a wrench as you turn the centr with allen whench until snug, then retighten counter nut...

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    Sounds like the swivel preload needs adjusting...


    http://www.sf.hiof.no/~frodehaa/swivelpinpreload.htm
    Joey
    97 Disco
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    Default Panhard Rod Bushings

    Quote Originally Posted by phoenix
    try replacing pan hard rod bushings, oil wetness from p/s tends to ruin them... you can try to adjust steering box play, it's located on top of box
    loosen with a socket and then hold with a wrench as you turn the centr with allen whench until snug, then retighten counter nut...
    I too had a similar experience. New panhard rod bushings solved my problem. I initially installed after-market OME bushings. BIG mistake. Lasted for a week. I then installed new Land Rover bushings w/hardware. >3 years now with no trouble.

    Cheers,
    1990 RRC, 3.9L, AUTO "Willow Pond" (Sold)
    1996 D1, 4.0L, AUTO "Lucas"
    1999 RR, 4.0L, AUTO "Belle" (Sold)

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    Do a search of "death wobble". It is either improper swivel bearing preload or shot pan hard rod bushings. It is NOT your steering stabilizer as many will suggest.
    The Goat, 2.8 Daihatsu Td, '73 coil conversion

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    I agree with Kevin. A steering stabilizer will not cause the problem, it will only mask it. A properly set up vehicle doesn't even need a steering stabilizer to perform correctly. Land Rover Series vehicles went decades before the factory began installing them.

    It's easy to check the bushings up front with a crow bar but my bet is on the pre-load. Some of these trucks are approaching twenty years of use without ever having been checked.
    paulgrant@mac.com
    203-770-1699

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    I've just been through the same with my '95 lwb and it was absolutely the swivel pins. Easy to fix by removing the shims to get the right preload. I ended up with only 1 very very thin one (there are 3 thicknesses in various combinations used from the factory to set the preload).
    Drives like a new truck now...
    '95 RRC LWB (white)
    '95 RRC LWB (Avalon Blue) - sold
    '95 RRC LWB parts truck ready and waiting to donate to the cause...

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    Commonly a problem with panhard rod bushings
    http://www.roversnorth.com/store/sea...rchTerm=RNS049

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    Is the ABS light on?
    My vehs. seem to trip the light when the pre-load is not correct, as the air gap from the sensor to the C.V. joint is out of spec.
    Les Parker
    Tech. Support and Parts Specialist
    Rovers North Inc.

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    Default More steering issues

    First time posting! Infinite resources here. I'm sure it won't be my last.

    I'm having steering issues with my RRC.Tight turning both ways until it catches with a lot of steering in between those times, tracks very straight down the road, no power steering pump whine. I do have the common leakage underneath though. If it is the swivel pin preload as opposed to just the panhard rod bushings how would I know?

    Expecting 6" of snow tonite, Need my Rover!

    Thank you!

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