You can purchase a long block Turner "High Performance" 2.25 engine through Atlantic British in New York. You swap over your manifolds, carb, water pump, alternator, distributor, fuel pump, etc. That's what I did since I was looking for a drop-in replacement. It wasn't cheap, but it wasn't much more than the RN engine and it was worth the extra $ IMO.
Here is how you pick it up:
...and here is what's inside:
What are you getting for the extra $576 through AB? The RN site lists their engine as "new" rather than a rebuild.
I'm assuming the AB is a rebuilt, and realistically, I'd expect the RN one must be too despite the "new" label.
I agree that Turner is the leader in LR rebuilds, but last I knew RN's engines were Turner rebuilds too. That was awhile ago though.
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1970 88 IIA
The complete engines listed on the RN site are rebuilds of already-rebuilt military engines that they have done by a local shop. I bought one and RN came and got it back due to multiple quality concerns based on visual inspection only. Plus, the ancillary equipment (water pump, manifolds, fuel pump, carb, alternator) is all used stuff that is in 'servicable' condition at best. Check out the pictures below of the engine that I originally received from RN. When I asked RN to quote me a top quality rebuilt complete engine, the price I was quoted was $7500 . I found it to be more cost effective for me to buy the Turner long block and dress it out myself with new Genuine parts and parts that I rebuilt from my original engine.
For reference, this was the picture shown on the RN web site for the RNE568 Engine that I purchased:
(Big difference, huh?)
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1970 88 IIA
I also have a quote from Turner Engineering and we are at $4530 with current pound conversion delivered as a stripped engine. That is well below British Atlantic's price before ship. I will post ACR $'s when I get this deal put together. At this point I am looking at the 2.8l based on the 5 bolt block with tuned intake, carb, performance cam, and header. My gut is all this will run $1500-2000 more, including ship, than the Turner.
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67 Series II
71 Series IIa 88" ACR 2.8 Power Plus
89 RRC SWB 2-Door 2.4L tdi Spanish
93 D110 NAS 327
94 2x D90 NAS #'s 1076, 1181
95 3x RRC 2-SWB, 1-LWB
Those pictures tell a whole story. Repainted is not rebuilt. A proper REBUILD will start by removing all the core plugs and freeze plugs, then boiling the block. There wouldn't be any evidence of rust, or old flaking paint. It doesn't look like the head was even off that engine Jeff. If the seller of that engine told me he had them bebuilt, I wouldn't buy it and would be suspect of wear internally. How do you renew the timing chain, and tensioner without pulling the front cover? How do you renew the mains and rod bearings with pulling the pan? How do you lap the valves and ridge the bore without pulling the head?
Well we are much better at saving what we have than our fellow owners in the U.K. as they discard many useful engines there. Even the 2.5 NAD, turbo and petrol engines do not mean much to them when the TDI's go in.
From the description page.It doesn't say it was rebuilt. In fact, it doesn't say anything about their source at all. Maybe this was a change in sales policy?
I have to take a step back because it seems Jeff was told these engines were rebuilt state side. If that's the case then I too would be upset as a buyer to receive that.