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  • masonater
    3rd Gear
    • Nov 2007
    • 329

    oil cooler problem...

    So after deciding to keep my oil cooler and reinstall it i wanted to powder coat it. Bad idea. It had been so long since i took it apart and bead blasted it i forgot there is some sort of plastic in the valve (so i think) I noticed something was wrong when i was pre heating it (20 min @400) and it caught fire out either end. Gooey melted plastic or so it seems was coming out the ends and some of the solder around the cooling fins came loose. Can anyone explain what went on inside it? If i shake it i can hear rattling noises inside. I tried blowing air through and it only came out one way not the reverse...I attached pics to show what valve and whats left of the plastic im talking about. I really hope i didnt toast (literally) the whole cooler.
    1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
    1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
    1982 Mercedes 300TD
    1989 RRC
    1993 D110
    1994 RRC LWB
    1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
    1995 RRC LWB
    1995 RRC LWB
    1995 Disco
    1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
    1996 Disco
    1997 Disco
    2001 RR P38
    2005 LR3 HSE
    2006 RR HSE
  • Big_Mark
    Low Range
    • Dec 2010
    • 11

    #2
    Were you trying to powder coat the actual fins on the cooler?

    That would insulate the oil instead of dissipate the heat. Me thinks you made a boo boo......

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    • masonater
      3rd Gear
      • Nov 2007
      • 329

      #3
      Originally posted by Big_Mark
      Were you trying to powder coat the actual fins on the cooler?

      That would insulate the oil instead of dissipate the heat. Me thinks you made a boo boo......
      Yes i was, it was painted when i took it off so a figured it would be similar...oops

      I guess this may be the end of my to put on, or not to put on debate...
      1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
      1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
      1982 Mercedes 300TD
      1989 RRC
      1993 D110
      1994 RRC LWB
      1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
      1995 RRC LWB
      1995 RRC LWB
      1995 Disco
      1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
      1996 Disco
      1997 Disco
      2001 RR P38
      2005 LR3 HSE
      2006 RR HSE

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      • Big_Mark
        Low Range
        • Dec 2010
        • 11

        #4
        Originally posted by masonater
        Yes i was, it was painted when i took it off so a figured it would be similar...oops

        I guess this may be the end of my to put on, or not to put on debate...
        LOL, I love it when I make decisions for myself like that!

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        • SafeAirOne
          Overdrive
          • Apr 2008
          • 3435

          #5
          It looks as if there was a built-in check valve prior to heating.
          --Mark

          1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

          0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
          (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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          • JimCT
            5th Gear
            • Nov 2006
            • 518

            #6
            powder coating

            Confused here, what parts of Series LR's where powder coated?
            1968 battlefield ambulance/camper
            1963 Unimog Radio box
            1995 LWB RR

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            • masonater
              3rd Gear
              • Nov 2007
              • 329

              #7
              doubt anything was powder coated originally but every part that i can physically do will be once im all done with the project. Wish i had not put the oil cooler in the oven though...live and learn i guess. Looking in my optional equipment book, i see there was a plastic valve inside. I wondered where the fire was coming from during pre heating, now i know! I can live with myself if thats the worst thing that happens during my whole rebuild considering im learning as i go...
              1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
              1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
              1982 Mercedes 300TD
              1989 RRC
              1993 D110
              1994 RRC LWB
              1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
              1995 RRC LWB
              1995 RRC LWB
              1995 Disco
              1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
              1996 Disco
              1997 Disco
              2001 RR P38
              2005 LR3 HSE
              2006 RR HSE

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              • JackIIA
                5th Gear
                • Dec 2008
                • 498

                #8
                Mason - is that your RV-7 and 152 in the engine shots?
                1970 88 IIA

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                • masonater
                  3rd Gear
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 329

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JackIIA
                  Mason - is that your RV-7 and 152 in the engine shots?
                  Its actually an RV-8 with a 540 (insane fast) and a 1940's piper in back. They belong to my stepfather. He built that RV from scratch about 10 years ago. lots of leftover aluminum for my rover! RV may be for sale if your interested...
                  1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
                  1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
                  1982 Mercedes 300TD
                  1989 RRC
                  1993 D110
                  1994 RRC LWB
                  1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
                  1995 RRC LWB
                  1995 RRC LWB
                  1995 Disco
                  1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
                  1996 Disco
                  1997 Disco
                  2001 RR P38
                  2005 LR3 HSE
                  2006 RR HSE

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                  • JackIIA
                    5th Gear
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 498

                    #10
                    very cool! i can barely afford my rover, so alas, i'll have to pass.
                    1970 88 IIA

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                    • I Leak Oil
                      Overdrive
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 1796

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SafeAirOne
                      It looks as if there was a built-in check valve prior to heating.
                      There is a valve in there. I don't remember if it's a check or a flow control (thermostat) type though. Anyone with a working oil cooler has probably heard the groaning it makes. That's the valve working....

                      Masonater, if the truck is staying on Nantucket or anywhere here in N.E. you won't come close to needing an oil cooler.
                      Jason
                      "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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                      • masonater
                        3rd Gear
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 329

                        #12
                        It will be on Nantucket for the rest of its days so i hear ya about not needing it, ive heard the 8 blade fan does a good enough job anyway. I was thinking, dont oil coolers work with air flowing past them? i hardy go above 20 on island, mostly just cruise around in 2nd in town or on the beach...

                        Now that its busted anyway with the missing valve...if i dont install it, I wonder how i can get an oil temp reading considering the capillary bulb type sender for the temp is on one of the oil cooler lines?
                        1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
                        1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
                        1982 Mercedes 300TD
                        1989 RRC
                        1993 D110
                        1994 RRC LWB
                        1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
                        1995 RRC LWB
                        1995 RRC LWB
                        1995 Disco
                        1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
                        1996 Disco
                        1997 Disco
                        2001 RR P38
                        2005 LR3 HSE
                        2006 RR HSE

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                        • 69Bugeye
                          Low Range
                          • May 2009
                          • 24

                          #13
                          The four blade fan does just fine.
                          The eight blade fan is a power robbing pig. It's HEAVY.

                          In my opinion, you are attempting to address a problem that doesn't exist.
                          Beware the lollipop of mediocrity.
                          Lick it once, and you'll suck forever.

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                          • masonater
                            3rd Gear
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 329

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 69Bugeye
                            The four blade fan does just fine.
                            The eight blade fan is a power robbing pig. It's HEAVY.

                            In my opinion, you are attempting to address a problem that doesn't exist.
                            I've always had the 8 blade fan being a EX MOD 109, and i never go above 40 and there are zero hills on island so power is not a concern to me. The only problem that im trying to address is how im going to have an oil temp reading with out reinstalling the now busted (check valve anyway) oil cooler being that the sensor in inline with the system.
                            1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
                            1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
                            1982 Mercedes 300TD
                            1989 RRC
                            1993 D110
                            1994 RRC LWB
                            1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
                            1995 RRC LWB
                            1995 RRC LWB
                            1995 Disco
                            1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
                            1996 Disco
                            1997 Disco
                            2001 RR P38
                            2005 LR3 HSE
                            2006 RR HSE

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                            • I Leak Oil
                              Overdrive
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 1796

                              #15
                              I guess you could try to install the sender into the oil pan some how. Or just do away with the oil temp gauge all together.

                              I just saw your list of rovers....Holy cow! How do you find time to do anything but work on them?!
                              Jason
                              "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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