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  • masonater
    3rd Gear
    • Nov 2007
    • 329

    Flywheel skimmed, broken locater stub...

    I had my flywheel skimmed at a local clutch place and they gave it back to me with one of the 2 locater stubs busted off, will this be a problem or is it just to help line up the bolt holes?
    1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
    1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
    1982 Mercedes 300TD
    1989 RRC
    1993 D110
    1994 RRC LWB
    1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
    1995 RRC LWB
    1995 RRC LWB
    1995 Disco
    1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
    1996 Disco
    1997 Disco
    2001 RR P38
    2005 LR3 HSE
    2006 RR HSE
  • scatterling
    1st Gear
    • Dec 2006
    • 183

    #2
    not sure if it would actually be a problem or not.
    My machine shop was unable to remove the pins on mine to skim it so they drilled small holes from the back of the flywheel and then were able drift out the pins.
    - just a thought if you wanted to replace the broken ones.
    Neil Hanekom
    '73 LHD 88
    '75 FFR 109 exMOD Build Photo's
    '99 D1

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    • I Leak Oil
      Overdrive
      • Nov 2006
      • 1796

      #3
      Take it back and ask them to fix it, they broke it....It's an easy fix doing what Scatterling's shop did. Put both dowel pins in while it's out. You'll have some semblance of balance at the clutch.
      Jason
      "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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      • Terrys
        Overdrive
        • May 2007
        • 1382

        #4
        Yes, It's a problem. Bolts hold the flywheel to the face of the crank flange. They do no keep it axially located. With only one dowel pin, what's to say someone didn't try to put the flywneel back on with Dowel pin A, into Dowel Pin Hole B?

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        • masonater
          3rd Gear
          • Nov 2007
          • 329

          #5
          I was thinking balance may be an issue. Im going to take it back today, I would think that they have replacement pins? Its a pretty good size shop. Ill mention drilling it out from the other side.

          Im curious, is the problem a balance issue or putting it on the right way?

          thanks for the info
          1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
          1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
          1982 Mercedes 300TD
          1989 RRC
          1993 D110
          1994 RRC LWB
          1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
          1995 RRC LWB
          1995 RRC LWB
          1995 Disco
          1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
          1996 Disco
          1997 Disco
          2001 RR P38
          2005 LR3 HSE
          2006 RR HSE

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          • jac04
            Overdrive
            • Feb 2007
            • 1884

            #6
            FYI, 502116 is the p/n for the locating pins. Our hosts show them available at $5.08 each.

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            • I Leak Oil
              Overdrive
              • Nov 2006
              • 1796

              #7
              Originally posted by masonater
              Im curious, is the problem a balance issue or putting it on the right way?
              Both.....
              IIRC it's a standard size dowel pin, nothing special.
              Jason
              "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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              • mongoswede
                5th Gear
                • May 2010
                • 757

                #8
                you should take it back and have the pins repaired. While they are in there have them turn off 5 lbs of material or so.

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                • jac04
                  Overdrive
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1884

                  #9
                  Originally posted by I Leak Oil
                  Both.....
                  IIRC it's a standard size dowel pin, nothing special.
                  Mine were stepped-diameter pins.

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                  • I Leak Oil
                    Overdrive
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 1796

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mongoswede
                    you should take it back and have the pins repaired. While they are in there have them turn off 5 lbs of material or so.
                    That's probably a good idea for a race engine that needs to rev high and get there quickly but for a rover you want the weight to help keep the crank momentum up. That's what a flywheel is for.
                    Jason
                    "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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                    • I Leak Oil
                      Overdrive
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 1796

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jac04
                      Mine were stepped-diameter pins.
                      Now that you mention it, I think mine might have been stepped too. Atleast one of them was. I'll be doing mine again soon enough so I'll know what I've got.
                      Jason
                      "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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                      • masonater
                        3rd Gear
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 329

                        #12
                        called the clutch place before i drove all the way out there and they said they dont have any dowel pins and that its just used to assemble the car going down the line. Now these are some eastern kentucky good old boys so i dont trust there judgement when it comes to 41 year old land rovers. Im going to go to a few places around here and see if i can get a replacement pin, Good news is they managed to get the broken bits out. Thanks for all your help folks
                        1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
                        1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
                        1982 Mercedes 300TD
                        1989 RRC
                        1993 D110
                        1994 RRC LWB
                        1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
                        1995 RRC LWB
                        1995 RRC LWB
                        1995 Disco
                        1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
                        1996 Disco
                        1997 Disco
                        2001 RR P38
                        2005 LR3 HSE
                        2006 RR HSE

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                        • masonater
                          3rd Gear
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 329

                          #13
                          I couldn't find a dowel pin at any of the shops around here so i tried to make one out of an old bolt on the lathe and it came out great. Problem solved, and yes it is a stepped pin.
                          1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
                          1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
                          1982 Mercedes 300TD
                          1989 RRC
                          1993 D110
                          1994 RRC LWB
                          1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
                          1995 RRC LWB
                          1995 RRC LWB
                          1995 Disco
                          1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
                          1996 Disco
                          1997 Disco
                          2001 RR P38
                          2005 LR3 HSE
                          2006 RR HSE

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                          • mongoswede
                            5th Gear
                            • May 2010
                            • 757

                            #14
                            Originally posted by I Leak Oil
                            That's probably a good idea for a race engine that needs to rev high and get there quickly but for a rover you want the weight to help keep the crank momentum up. That's what a flywheel is for.

                            5 lbs isnt that much for a rover flywheel. It will reduce some of the rotational energy stored in the spinning flywheel but it will help with road driving performance and it won't hurt in the woods either. Its something to consider especially if you are trying to bump performance by going to an efi system.

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                            • mongoswede
                              5th Gear
                              • May 2010
                              • 757

                              #15
                              Originally posted by masonater
                              called the clutch place before i drove all the way out there and they said they dont have any dowel pins and that its just used to assemble the car going down the line. Now these are some eastern kentucky good old boys so i dont trust there judgement when it comes to 41 year old land rovers. Im going to go to a few places around here and see if i can get a replacement pin, Good news is they managed to get the broken bits out. Thanks for all your help folks

                              the dowel pins are to assist in alignment. I have assembled some cars without the dowel pins without issue. ...but you could have a slight imbalance problem if things are not lined up perfectly. For replacement dowels check out your local hardware store that has a good selection for nuts and bolts. Otherwise take a look at www.mcmaster.com ...they will be a little more expensive but have a good selection.

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