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knac1234
05-17-2011, 09:34 AM
Hello all,

Thought I'd ask about lamps also, as I've been looking at mine lately.

When I remove them for paint, I would like to replace the lamp to body rubber seals/plinth and the lens to lamp body gaskets.

So, on my 72 Series III, I have the following:

L760 Lucas clear lamps on the front (2).....where can I get both the lamp to body seal and the lamp to lens gasket?

L692 Lucas rear lamps (2).....easy....same as my Imp or a big Healey

L833 Lucas directional lamps (4).....impossible....but mine are good and I'll make do

L841 Lucas side marker lamps (4)....where can I get the rubber "plinth" on which the lens and chrome surround sits?

Reverse lamps....easy....same as MGB

Thanks,
Julian

Terrys
05-17-2011, 11:26 AM
L841 Lucas side marker lamps (4)....where can I get the rubber "plinth" on which the lens and chrome surround sits?
Moss Motors

knac1234
05-17-2011, 12:32 PM
Terry,

Thanks....found them (Spitfire)...but $135 PER LAMP!

I can't spend $600 on a set of 4 lamps :eek:

Perhaps I can rebuild my existing plinths. I used an epoxy called PC7 on my steering wheel resto....well might be worth a shot.

Julian

TSR53
05-17-2011, 12:50 PM
Front Lights
http://www.roversnorth.com/store/c-102-front-lights.aspx
http://c7743.r43.cf2.rackcdn.com/Images/category/102-front-lights-01.jpg (http://www.roversnorth.com/store/c-102-front-lights.aspx)
http://c7743.r43.cf2.rackcdn.com/Images/category/102-front-lights-02.jpg
http://c7743.r43.cf2.rackcdn.com/Images/category/102-front-lights-03.jpg


Rear Lights
http://www.roversnorth.com/store/c-103-rear-lights.aspx
http://c7743.r43.cf2.rackcdn.com/Images/category/103-rear-lights.jpg

TedW
05-17-2011, 01:08 PM
Hello all,



L841 Lucas side marker lamps (4)....where can I get the rubber "plinth" on which the lens and chrome surround sits?


Thanks,
Julian

A few vendors had repros of these at the British Invasion - $14 each, and made of nice silicone rubber. Look like they'd last forever.

I'll try to track a source down for you. Send me a pm if you don't hear from me in the next week.

knac1234
05-17-2011, 01:28 PM
Ted--

Awesome....if you can get them for $14 each consider 4 sold :thumb-up:

Art--

I checked through your site....no side lamps. I see the lens RNC528 for the Lucas L760 clear front one....I just need the gasket/body and lens gasket/lamp holder.....but perhaps there isn't one anyway? Or does the lens come with the gasket?

Cheers,
Julian

TedW
05-17-2011, 02:01 PM
If I track down the source I'll send it your way.

Les Parker
05-17-2011, 02:35 PM
How about :-

http://www.roversnorth.com/store/p-5948-lamp-assmembly-parking-or-reverse-light.aspx

printjunky
05-17-2011, 03:53 PM
Knac, you might have to do some deep/wide searching (and I don't recall if I saw it here or elsewhere) but there was a guy (in England, I think) who was molding brand new plinths for those side markers, for a VERY reasonable price (I think it was ~$14 - would be fine, even with shipping).

Until I saw that, I assumed I'd been priced out of the market for refurbing mine (not done yet, too many BIG fish to fry!). I was going to switch to Defender-style sides, but if that guys still making them, eventually will redo the originals.

Note that my search could have also included searching for cross-pollination to other cars that used the same plinth.

Terrys
05-17-2011, 05:09 PM
Terry,

Thanks....found them (Spitfire)...but $135 PER LAMP!

I can't spend $600 on a set of 4 lamps :eek:

Perhaps I can rebuild my existing plinths. I used an epoxy called PC7 on my steering wheel resto....well might be worth a shot.

Julian
That's the price for the whole lamp. I bought four rubber back plates and it seems to me they were about $15 ea.

printjunky
05-18-2011, 12:51 AM
Did a little searching and found an earlier thread, but it appears the supplier referred to is now listing the plinths as NLA. http://www.englishparts.com/products/BASE--RUBBER--REAR-SIDE-MARKER-LAMP/5946/282-260.html

The exact same lights were used on 70-on Midgets, and Moss seems to be saying they have the plinths for $15. http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29347#top

Tedw's reference to Silicone molded plinths in this thread sound like that would be "problem solved" if we could figure out where they came from.
http://www.roversnorth.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8894&highlight=side+marker&page=2

Terrys
05-18-2011, 05:04 AM
The exact same lights were used on 70-on Midgets, and Moss seems to be saying they have the plinths for $15. http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29347#top



Seem? They are saying it. I have bought 2 sets in the past year from them.

TedW
05-18-2011, 07:58 AM
Seem? They are saying it. I have bought 2 sets in the past year from them.

Terrys: Did they have the flat bases or the angled bases? If they had the flat bases (like the ones I saw) it sounds like our search is over.

knac1234
05-18-2011, 09:19 AM
Great,

Yes, Terry those were the entire lamp assemblies. Looks like RDS also has them (NOS) for about the same price!


If anyone can confirm they (Midget ones) are exact for sure, let me know (and a Moss part # if possible)! I was under the impression that a Triumph Spitfire used the same plinth, but in Moss and elsewhere it is NLA. But, if the Midget one works and fits the lens and chrome surround I have properly, I'll go for it!

And I just placed an order with Moss yesterday for some threshold plates for the Imp :sly:

Julian

printjunky
05-18-2011, 02:54 PM
This is from reading, not personal experience, but everything I see points to the Midget after 1970 using the FLAT base lights exactly like the Rovers. The Spits use an angled base version to compensate for curved body surfaces where the lights were mounted.

The link to the Moss part is in the post above above. (part# 282-260)

The "seems" Terrys, was a vague reference to me not checking to make sure I wasn't looking at a cached, un-redirected, old, or otherwise non-current version of that page - but thanks for the confirmation!).

Terrys
05-18-2011, 05:43 PM
The link to the Moss part is in the post above above. (part# 282-260)

The "seems" Terrys, was a vague reference to me not checking to make sure I wasn't looking at a cached, un-redirected, old, or otherwise non-current version of that page - but thanks for the confirmation!).
Well kinda, but I have to admit, the Moss site is difficult to navigate if you don't know which car you're trying to find a match from.
Here are the four I got from them last order. They are 'flat'. Bag says 282-260. PAD, SIDE LAMP BASE. QTY 4. And yes, they were $14.95ea.

knac1234
05-18-2011, 06:19 PM
Terry et al-

THANKS! The support from the board is great! Wish I had more experience to contribute more than I have on the answer side of things! If anyone has questions about Hillman Imps........:cool:

Will order them on the next Moss order. More questions to come, as I will be placing a larger order soon, I think.

Julian

printjunky
05-18-2011, 09:18 PM
Questions beget knowledge begets experience begets answers. You'll be chiming in soon enough, guaranteed.

One thing I can say is that well-constructed searches here and elsewhere can lead down relevant and sometimes irrelevant paths, but almost always, I learn more than I set out to.