pipe clips

[JackIIA]

i'm used to seeing brake pipes attached to the chassis using the black clamps on the far right below.

on series iii's, i've seen the double white clips used to run the brake pipes high on the bulkhead (almost hidden from view).

and on at least one restoration, i've seen the single white clips used to lift the brake pipes off of the chassis, presumably to reduce the risk of chaffing against the steel chassis.

so, two questions:

1.) do most people use the black clamps alone, everywhere? (that's how my truck was originally, and is that fine). The parts manual only shows the use of these clamps.

2.) if the plastic clips are used, and presumably they are since Rovers made them, how the heck are they attached to the truck? i figured it's just a friction fit or there is a female grommet that goes with these and clips from the other side. none of the holes on my bulkhead, save one, provide a snug fit to these plastic clips.

danke.

[stonefox]

i'm used to seeing brake pipes attached to the chassis using the black clamps on the far right below.

on series iii's, i've seen the double white clips used to run the brake pipes high on the bulkhead (almost hidden from view).

and on at least one restoration, i've seen the single white clips used to lift the brake pipes off of the chassis, presumably to reduce the risk of chaffing against the steel chassis.

so, two questions:

1.) do most people use the black clamps alone, everywhere? (that's how my truck was originally, and is that fine). The parts manual only shows the use of these clamps.

2.) if the plastic clips are used, and presumably they are since Rovers made them, how the heck are they attached to the truck? i figured it's just a friction fit or there is a female grommet that goes with these and clips from the other side. none of the holes on my bulkhead, save one, provide a snug fit to these plastic clips.

danke.
Thats what came in my brake pipe kit as well. I thought they were a little "cheesey ". I ended up using the same rubber gromet and metal clips that hold the rear brake line to the "spring guard ?" on the rear axle.They were neat ,strong,and could be drilled and screwed anywere.At $2 a piece they were not the cheapest way to go although. Not correct :nono:, but I thought it was a great solution to the plastic clips and i thought it looked good as well..
Not the best pics but you will get the idea.If you zoom into just below the tranny crossmember you can get a looky.

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[JackIIA]

Sean, thanks. I hadn't thought of the speedo grommet clamps. Those white clips are indeed just a push fit I found out. I'm not missing anything on the other side. What did you use for sealant to prevent your steering box from leaking? I rebuilt mine, with new gaskets and Hylomar and it still weaps. Not a ton, but for the effort, I wanted bone dry. Great shots on the ride by the way, as always.

[SafeAirOne]

Adel (MS21919) clamps (http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/ms21919clamps.php)are a lot cheaper then $2 a pop and perform the same function as the expensive OE clamps and are corrosion proof/resistant.

[JackIIA]

Mark - great find! Thanks.

[rickv100]

Saturn Surplus at saturnsurplus.com sells similar clips for .50 each


M35

Clamp Loop (http://saturnsurplus.com/m35/9998.jpg)

8352677

5340-00-250-9998

$.50

AA085


http://saturnsurplus.com/m35/9998.jpg

[JackIIA]

Rick - thanks.

[stonefox]

You know ,I bought those other clamps as well originally, because they were half the price but in the end I thought the OE ones just had a little more refinement look to them. To each their own!
Truth be known, I resealed my steering box as well and it still weeps .I think the only true way to stop the leaking on a Land Rover is to not have any fluid in anything....,done problem solved!

[bkreutz]

Q: What do you call a British car that doesn't leak oil????


A: Out of oil.:D

[jac04]

Here is the proper way to install the plastic clips:
1) Drill the proper size hole. The hole should be just snug to the clip.
2) Put the clip in the hole and bottom out on the clip flange.
3) Gently tap the clip with a hammer or firm rubber mallet. The plastic clip will collapse and lock itself into the hole. I think this is the step you are missing.

I have used the plastic clips on all my restorations. They are easy to use, rust-free, and keep the pipes away from the chassis. I find that they work well on the chassis, but don't work as well on thinner metal.

[JackIIA]

Thanks Jeff.