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  • jcutler
    Low Range
    • May 2010
    • 40

    Stickler for originality

    What color were the wheels painted on a '59 SII? Seems like on most trucks they are painted limestone, but I seem to have read, and maybe seen archival pictures, that they are painted body color on the early series II. What's the truth?

    Also, is the original BSC101 Sky Blue engine paint available anywhere? I understand that the Detroit Diesel Alpine Green is close, but if available I'd use the actual original...

    Help is much appreciated,
    Joel
    Joel
    '59 SII 88"
    '06 MCS
    '67 TR4A-IRS
    '71 BMW R75/5
    TR3A, E-Type, etc, etc...it's a disease
  • albersj51
    5th Gear
    • May 2010
    • 687

    #2
    I THINK the wheels would be body color in your case. For engine color, try Dunsfold in the UK. You may also find some on ebay.co.uk.

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    • leafsprung
      Overdrive
      • Nov 2006
      • 1008

      #3
      different markets sometimes had different color schemes. Most trucks here in the US had contrasting wheels on SII. However, most bronze green series twos had body colored wheels in the US. The engine paint isnt available AFAIK youll need to have it mixed up.

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      • Momo
        3rd Gear
        • Dec 2006
        • 347

        #4
        Yeah, you can't get the engine paint (Duck Egg Blue/Sky Blue) in the US... but you can get 500ml tins of it out of the UK- try Ebay. However, Rustoleum was making a very close match called "Glacier Blue" #241236.

        But I could not find it anywhere when I needed some recently... not even Walmart. I called Rustoleum and unfortunately, it's been discontinued.
        However,they have probably 40 cases left (6 cans per case) so if you want some, call them.

        Here's how it looks on the motor:
        '60 SII Station Wagon
        '64 SIIA 109 Regular
        '68 SIIA 88 Station Wagon

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        • Momo
          3rd Gear
          • Dec 2006
          • 347

          #5
          Also, it seems the body color wheels were for certain colors only- Poppy Red, Limestone, Mid Grey, Bronze Green, RAF Blue. I've never seen a Pastel Green truck or Marine Blue with original body color wheels.
          '60 SII Station Wagon
          '64 SIIA 109 Regular
          '68 SIIA 88 Station Wagon

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          • BobJones
            Low Range
            • Jun 2008
            • 61

            #6
            My 59 SerII was originally pastel green, and the wheels were limestone.

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            • jcutler
              Low Range
              • May 2010
              • 40

              #7
              Nice engine. And thanks for the info - I'll see if I can get a can of the sky blue, and maybe I'll try the Rustoleum. Apparently Amazon has it: http://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-241.../dp/B0010OFF82 . But Rustoleum isn't heat resistant is it? And how close is close?

              BobJones, your input is perfect. If you got your truck new that's my answer. I'm using pastel green...
              Joel
              '59 SII 88"
              '06 MCS
              '67 TR4A-IRS
              '71 BMW R75/5
              TR3A, E-Type, etc, etc...it's a disease

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              • kwd509
                1st Gear
                • Aug 2010
                • 180

                #8
                My father bought a pastel green 2a, 1964. As w bob jones, The wheels were limestone. (After being abandoned for 32 years, it now sits in my barn. To my delight and trepidation.)

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                • Momo
                  3rd Gear
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 347

                  #9
                  jcutler, it is as close as you can get I think with an off the shelf brand. You could also contact Tower Paint in Wisconsin www.apstowerpaint.com and have them mix a few cans of Sky Blue for you. Not cheap but an alternative to consider.

                  I've had good luck with Rustoleum standing up to heat. They have a tech question number to call if you are interested.
                  '60 SII Station Wagon
                  '64 SIIA 109 Regular
                  '68 SIIA 88 Station Wagon

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                  • TedW
                    5th Gear
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 887

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Momo
                    jcutler, it is as close as you can get I think with an off the shelf brand. You could also contact Tower Paint in Wisconsin www.apstowerpaint.com and have them mix a few cans of Sky Blue for you. Not cheap but an alternative to consider.
                    FWIW I am a huge Tower Paint fan. I recently repainted my 88 with pastel green custom mix rattle cans from them - I ended up ordering the paint in about 4 different batches of DuPont Centari. All the batches matched each other (and the original finish) spot on. They are good.

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                    • jcutler
                      Low Range
                      • May 2010
                      • 40

                      #11
                      Thanks everyone! DAP has some paint that is based on the original formula, but it's a 500 cc can - probably enough for a fleet! I'll check with Tower to see what they can offer.
                      Joel
                      '59 SII 88"
                      '06 MCS
                      '67 TR4A-IRS
                      '71 BMW R75/5
                      TR3A, E-Type, etc, etc...it's a disease

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                      • TedW
                        5th Gear
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 887

                        #12
                        I just realized it was you, Joel!

                        Anything to help another ex-Bangor boy. I look forward to seeing you again at the British Invasion.

                        Ted Woodward

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                        • SafeAirOne
                          Overdrive
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 3435

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jcutler
                          Thanks everyone! DAP has some paint that is based on the original formula, but it's a 500 cc can - probably enough for a fleet! I'll check with Tower to see what they can offer.

                          500cc is only a pint.


                          Well, I guess that IS a bit much for 2 coats on an engine if you're spraying it, but probably about right if you're brushing it on.
                          --Mark

                          1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                          0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                          (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                          • Momo
                            3rd Gear
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 347

                            #14
                            500cc is only a pint.
                            But it sounds like much more if you say "that's half a liter"!
                            '60 SII Station Wagon
                            '64 SIIA 109 Regular
                            '68 SIIA 88 Station Wagon

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                            • jcutler
                              Low Range
                              • May 2010
                              • 40

                              #15
                              True, but 500 of anything sounds like a lot. Especially if it costs $65!

                              And Ted, never a "former" Bangor boy. You can take the boy out of Bangor, but ....
                              Joel
                              '59 SII 88"
                              '06 MCS
                              '67 TR4A-IRS
                              '71 BMW R75/5
                              TR3A, E-Type, etc, etc...it's a disease

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