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  • artpeck
    3rd Gear
    • Dec 2009
    • 368

    1957 Series 1 insurance Value

    I just acquired a 1957 S 1 and while my agent insists it should only be insured for liability I want to insure it for collision and theft and they have of course no way of establishing value. One option is what I paid for it but I have seen prices all over the place and do feel like I bought well. Plus the market is so thin that few come for sale. It basically in excellent shape. Zero, and I mean zero, rust. Engine runs well and strong (for what is is). Frame is straight, tranny shifts cleanly in all gears. All bits work; light, wipers, etc. upholstery is newer but in proper fabric Boby work all straight. Even the banjo steering wheel is solid and uncracked. At some point someone did a nasty forest green over spray which I will correct but otherwise you get the idea. Any thoughts on a value range anyone wants to toss out there? Thanks.
    1995 NAS D-90 Soft Top, AA Yellow
    1973 Series III '88 Hard Top, Limestone
    1957 Series I, Deep bronze green
  • parrie
    2nd Gear
    • Jun 2012
    • 217

    #2
    Congradulations on your purchase, sounds like a beauty. Insurance for collision and theft is one thing, replacemnet value is another thing to consider. Not sure what your insurance cost would be but I think it would be realistic to insure it for dbl what you paid.

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    • artpeck
      3rd Gear
      • Dec 2009
      • 368

      #3
      Fair point. And that is really what I am looking for, replacement value. Hard to establish given how thin the market is. Unfortunately this one wasn't owned by Churchill... I paid $5500 which seemed fair even if the condition was less good than it is. Also the PO had a reputable mechanic go through the engine and replaced all gaskets. Did the valves. New springs. And seems to have really dialed in the solex as it runs flawlessly and starts on first crank. I think I got lucky since I bought it site unseen and had it shipped.
      1995 NAS D-90 Soft Top, AA Yellow
      1973 Series III '88 Hard Top, Limestone
      1957 Series I, Deep bronze green

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      • knac1234
        4th Gear
        • Nov 2010
        • 442

        #4
        Art,

        Who do you insure with? My Series was on an agreed on value policy with American Collectors for $215/year ($14K value on it).

        I used their 7500 mile tier, which allowed some commuting and errand running in addition to the usual "pleasure driving." Had to be garaged, have a good driving record, and you had to have at least the same number of modern vehicles as there were drivers in the household. If that fits you, insure your SI to the max for not a lot!

        Julian
        Julian
        72 Series III NAS
        03 Disco
        04 Freelander (sold, but still running strong)
        2011 LR2 (Fuji White/Tan....per the wife )
        65 MGB / 73 MGBGT
        71 RHD Hillman Super Imp

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        • jac04
          Overdrive
          • Feb 2007
          • 1884

          #5
          This topic seems to come up quite often. Get Agreed Value insurance for an amount that you are comfortable with.

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          • artpeck
            3rd Gear
            • Dec 2009
            • 368

            #6
            Agreed upon value is what I intend to do. Just trying to get a fair sense of value to agree upon. We use a very good agent and have our real estate, personal liability and all 9 vehicles insured through them at favorable rates with very good service.
            1995 NAS D-90 Soft Top, AA Yellow
            1973 Series III '88 Hard Top, Limestone
            1957 Series I, Deep bronze green

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            • RNZack
              Administrator
              • Sep 2011
              • 426

              #7
              I need photos of this zero rust Series I!

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              • artpeck
                3rd Gear
                • Dec 2009
                • 368

                #8
                I can't upload photos from my iPad. Here is a link to the PO photo set. You will note the wood on the hood. Not clear where that came from. And the nasty over spray job in forest green. Appreciate your thoughts.

                Explore this photo album by Nic Lewis on Flickr!
                1995 NAS D-90 Soft Top, AA Yellow
                1973 Series III '88 Hard Top, Limestone
                1957 Series I, Deep bronze green

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                • RNZack
                  Administrator
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 426

                  #9
                  Wow, great looking truck! I am envious for sure!

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                  • artpeck
                    3rd Gear
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 368

                    #10
                    Thanks. I think it is a very solid candidate for restoration. I have been looking for awhile and so few come up and the ones that do, many are in terrible shape. There is a lot to do but no grievous problems. Lucky that it spent its life in Utah in a very arid environment.
                    1995 NAS D-90 Soft Top, AA Yellow
                    1973 Series III '88 Hard Top, Limestone
                    1957 Series I, Deep bronze green

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                    • parrie
                      2nd Gear
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 217

                      #11
                      Awesome looking truck, I'd say you made out rather well. The pictures of the frame are IMPRESSIVE! You're right, the wood on the bonnet is kinda funky, never seen that before...I suppose beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Seeing the pics I'd say that you could get your agent to agree to $15k value. Hope you enjoy it thoroughly!

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                      • LaneRover
                        Overdrive
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 1743

                        #12
                        Restoration? I'd just drive it like that! I would recommend painting the plates that I assume are there as load spreading plates for seat belts. At least paint them to avoid any reaction between the steel and aluminum.

                        Any ideas why they have the wood strips on the bonnet?
                        1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
                        1965 109 SW - nearly running well
                        1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
                        1969 109 P-UP

                        http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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                        • jac04
                          Overdrive
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 1884

                          #13
                          Originally posted by artpeck
                          Just trying to get a fair sense of value to agree upon.
                          Again, it should be a value that you are comfortable with. It doesn't really matter what we think it's worth, or even what an appraiser thinks it's worth (as long as you are not obviously trying to insure it for way more than it's worth). That's the beauty of agreed value insurance - it allows you to insure the vehicle for the amount you want as long as it is reasonable. So, if it's stolen or totalled are you OK with breaking even at $5500? Then insure it for $5500. Do you want to insure it for enough to replace it with a comparable vehicle? Then try $10,000 - $15,000, maybe even $20,000. Think it's worth more? Then insure it for $25,000 - $30,000.

                          Now, agreed value insurance can also be used to insure a car for less than its value, allowing you to save $ on insurance. Say a relative leaves you their million-dollar car and you can't afford to insure it for $1M. You can insure it for $5k if you want. Just remember that's all you'll get if it's totalled.

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                          • siii8873
                            Overdrive
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1013

                            #14
                            nice truck that is a great find! Don't see where it needs much of a restoration as noted above I'd keep up on maintenance and drive it.
                            THING 1 - 1973 88 SIII - SOLD
                            THING 2 -1974 88 SIII Daily Driver - SOLD
                            THING 3 - 1969 88 SIIA Bugeye Project
                            THING 4 - 1971 109 SIIA ExMod - SOLD
                            THING 5 - 1958 109 PU
                            THING 6 - 1954 86" HT

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