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  • Cevan
    Low Range
    • Jul 2011
    • 57

    Won't go into two wheel drive

    My Rover (1967 IIA) sat in a barn for 25 years so I'm not sure if things got gummed up. I can get four wheel high and low. When in I pull the red lever back into four wheel low, the yellow one pops up. But from here I can't push the red lever forward into neutral let alone the high position. If I push the yellow knob down, I can push the red lever forward into neutral and high.

    The floors and the tunnel covers are not installed so I have access to the area where the yellow knob assembly enters the tranny. I do have a temporary spring on the yellown knob. AnyAny thoughts? I'm so close to getting this thing on the road.
    1976 Honda CB750F1
    1974 Honda CB360G
    1967 Series IIA
  • I Leak Oil
    Overdrive
    • Nov 2006
    • 1796

    #2
    Perhaps because the tunnel isn't installed the temporary setup you have isn't allowing the pin on the other end of the yellow knob linkage to move enough or maybe too much? Slap the tunnel back in if possible and try it again.
    Jason
    "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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    • SafeAirOne
      Overdrive
      • Apr 2008
      • 3435

      #3
      Even if the yellow lever doesn't pop up, the red lever should fully cycle through low gear and back (just had to verify this to be sure).
      --Mark

      1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

      0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
      (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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      • ArlowCT
        2nd Gear
        • Jul 2008
        • 238

        #4
        Won't go into two wheel drive

        Pull up and hold up (not too hard, just hard enough) on the yellow knob as you shift into and out of 4 low. Hope this helps.

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        • Cevan
          Low Range
          • Jul 2011
          • 57

          #5
          Originally posted by ArlowCT
          Pull up and hold up (not too hard, just hard enough) on the yellow knob as you shift into and out of 4 low. Hope this helps.
          I've tried this with varying levels of upward pressure on the yellow knob. Once in four wheel low and the yellow knob pops up, the rev knob will not go forward, unless I press the yellow knob down again.
          1976 Honda CB750F1
          1974 Honda CB360G
          1967 Series IIA

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          • ArlowCT
            2nd Gear
            • Jul 2008
            • 238

            #6
            Have you tried rocking the trans back and forth? Put it in neutral and rock the truck back and forth a few inches, it may help the gears mesh.

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            • LR Max
              3rd Gear
              • Feb 2010
              • 315

              #7
              Do you feel like your red knob is going too far into the bulkhead?

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              • artpeck
                3rd Gear
                • Dec 2009
                • 368

                #8
                If it sat that long and no fluids being changed the odds of it being gummed up are close to 100%. What have you done in terms of fluid change? And assuming you drained and filled the transmission has it sat for while with new fluids?
                1995 NAS D-90 Soft Top, AA Yellow
                1973 Series III '88 Hard Top, Limestone
                1957 Series I, Deep bronze green

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                • LaneRover
                  Overdrive
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 1743

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Cevan
                  The floors and the tunnel covers are not installed so I have access to the area where the yellow knob assembly enters the tranny. I do have a temporary spring on the yellown knob. AnyAny thoughts? I'm so close to getting this thing on the road.
                  Any chance that with the floors and tunnels out the temporary spring is just plain getting in the way? Try taking off the temporary spring but keeping the yellow knob up with a bungie or string and then try it.
                  1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
                  1965 109 SW - nearly running well
                  1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
                  1969 109 P-UP

                  http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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                  • Cevan
                    Low Range
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 57

                    #10
                    I replaced the trans and transfer case fluid. I've tried it with the spring and manually pulling up on the yellow knob.
                    1976 Honda CB750F1
                    1974 Honda CB360G
                    1967 Series IIA

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                    • Cevan
                      Low Range
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 57

                      #11
                      Quick update: I got the dust cover separated from the transfer box. Unfortunately the clutch slave cylinder bracket is in the way and preventing removal of the cover. However, I can see about one inch of the selector shafts. As Mark said, the four wheel drive selector shaft is in the forward (4WD) position. On the underside of this shaft is some corrosion. The top and sides look fine. I'm guessing this is preventing it from springing back. I hit it with some PB Blaster and tapped it with a brass drift. Nothing. I'm going to let it sit overnight and see what the PB Blaster does.

                      If that doesn't work, I guess I'm taking the clutch slave bracket out. I took the top access cover off and I can see the other end of the four wheel drive selector shaft. With the dust cover off, I'm thinking I could tap it back and forth and hopefully dislodge it.

                      Btw, I registered it today to it's sort of legal to drive on the road (no fenders, hood or bumper).
                      1976 Honda CB750F1
                      1974 Honda CB360G
                      1967 Series IIA

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                      • Cevan
                        Low Range
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 57

                        #12
                        I ended up taking the slave cylinder bracket off because I wanted to clearance it from the bulkhead. It was practically touching the bulkhead and I figure the engine is going to move a little bit so better safe than sorry.

                        Pulled the dust cover off and hit the end of the shaft with strips of sandpaper up to 2000 grit to get rid of the corrosion. It was pretty minor. Put the pin back in the gently tapped the shaft back while pushing the red knob forward and . . . success!!! Buttoned everything back up and took it around my cal de sac a few times. I had registered it yesterday and figured I'd be ok taking it up the street with no wings, hood, or windshield. Got it 3rd and 4th gear for the first time, up to 40 mph. Now I'm motivated to get this thing finished.
                        1976 Honda CB750F1
                        1974 Honda CB360G
                        1967 Series IIA

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