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  • Winston-Rover
    Low Range
    • Feb 2007
    • 27

    electronic ignition upgrade - which one??

    so I'm thinking about upgrading to an electronic ignition - either Pertronix or Crane XR700. which one is better. any thoughts?

    I have a 1971 Series IIa with a Rochester Carb.
  • BackInA88
    3rd Gear
    • Dec 2006
    • 332

    #2
    I went this route....


    I got mine when they put some up for bidding, $90 I think.
    Plugged right in.
    And now I have a complete spare distributor.
    71 IIa 88
    01 D2

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    • Linus Tremaine
      1st Gear
      • Jan 2007
      • 178

      #3
      I have a disco tech as well

      I chose it because, even at full cost, its still a fairly priced unit. You get the electronic upgrade and a brand new distributor.

      I would suggest that your order a spare electronic module, they only cost 20 (I asked on the phone, didnt actually get one). Either that or carry your old distributor as a spare, thats what I do.

      For a series two the wires are too short to reach the coil. Also, the wires that come out of the distributor are different colors than the wires that connect to the coil (there is a connector in the middle and the colors change). That is sort of stupid, but one can deal with it. I cut the connector off and soldered the wires together. Then, mark your coil with a pen what color goes on which side.
      1968 Land Rover "Park Ranger" camper **SOLD**
      1967 109 **SOLD**
      NADA Dormobile #601 **SOLD**
      1965 IIA 88 2.5NA Diesel
      1963 Mercedes 300se
      1975 Volvo C303
      KJ6AQK

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      • BackInA88
        3rd Gear
        • Dec 2006
        • 332

        #4
        I have a Series IIa and everything hooked straight up and the wire length was fine?

        OK the rest of the wiring is crap.
        Someday soon I will rewire the whole rig with a complete fuse block with a universal harness.


        71 IIa 88
        01 D2

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        • luckyjoe
          3rd Gear
          • Oct 2006
          • 335

          #5
          I went with a Pertronix unit a few years ago. It's been absolutely flawless. I chose this route because my Lucas 25D4 distributor is in great shape and I wanted to keep the vernier timing adjustment knob (one of my favorite Series LR features).


          Regards,

          Tom P.
          Tom P.
          1965 exMoD 109
          1995 RRC LWB w/EAS

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          • jac04
            Overdrive
            • Feb 2007
            • 1884

            #6
            I'm running the Pertronix in my '63 with no problems to report.

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            • Winston-Rover
              Low Range
              • Feb 2007
              • 27

              #7
              The disco-tech looks like a good option as well, but I don't I want to pay more for something I really don't need (since my distributor works fine).

              I think I'm leaning toward the Pertronix since it's hidden inside the distributor. did you guys need to upgrade the coil for the Pertronix?

              is anyone out there running the Crane XR700?

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              • zebrarover
                Low Range
                • Oct 2006
                • 30

                #8
                crane?

                Has anyone tried the crane or illumination modules?
                1966 Series IIA 88 "zebra"
                1967 Series IIA 109

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                • luckyjoe
                  3rd Gear
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 335

                  #9
                  I ran my orignal coil with the Pertronix for a couple years. No issues at all. last year I picked-up a NOS coil at a swap meet - still runs perfectly.

                  Tom P.
                  Tom P.
                  1965 exMoD 109
                  1995 RRC LWB w/EAS

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                  • msggunny
                    5th Gear
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 621

                    #10
                    Originally posted by luckyjoe
                    Ivernier timing adjustment knob
                    Maybe i am showing my ignorance but what exactly is the timing knob? May have missed seeing that on mine, just curious.
                    First but gone: 91 3 door Disco "White Rhino"
                    77 Series III 88 ex MoD "Shongololo"
                    Gone and I miss her: 97 D1 5 speed
                    04 DII
                    08 D3 (LR3)

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                    • luckyjoe
                      3rd Gear
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 335

                      #11
                      Here is a pic I googled:


                      In the lower-right corner you can see the knurled vernier adjustment knob. Turn it toward the "A" (CCW) to advance, and toward the "R" (CW) to retard. It was intended to adjust for variable fuel quality.

                      Here is another view:


                      BTW, the pics also show a Pertronix installed.

                      Regards,
                      Last edited by luckyjoe; 06-13-2007, 01:22 PM.
                      Tom P.
                      1965 exMoD 109
                      1995 RRC LWB w/EAS

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                      • jp-
                        5th Gear
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 981

                        #12
                        Gunny,

                        The vernier timing knob, is a knurled wheel (on the distributor body) that allows you to adjust the timing slightly advanced or retarded without loosening the distributor. It works by pulling on the diaphragm that controls the vacuum advance. The purpose of this wheel was to allow the driver to quickly compensate for fuel quality by adjusting the advance without loosening the distributor. It's rarely needed today (in the States anyway) because the fuel quality is relatively stable. I've never needed to use mine.
                        61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
                        66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
                        66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
                        67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
                        88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

                        -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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                        • chester rides again
                          1st Gear
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 116

                          #13
                          Which PerTronix ignition?

                          Ignitor ignition or Ignitor II ignition?
                          '68 109 3 door with multiple personalities
                          '03 Ford Excursion 7.3 diesel
                          '07 Porsche Carrera S Cabriolet

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                          • galen216
                            2nd Gear
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 236

                            #14
                            You want the regular ignitor, not the II.

                            Gunny, if you have a 45D like me you don't have the vernier knob. It's on older dizzies.
                            74 SIII
                            96 Disco SE-7 5 Spd.

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                            • chester rides again
                              1st Gear
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 116

                              #15
                              Thanks for the reply, but I need the model number too

                              [quote=galen216]You want the regular ignitor, not the II.

                              And the model number? 1143, 1146A, 1244A, 1247... The are listing 64 different models of the regular ignitor.
                              '68 109 3 door with multiple personalities
                              '03 Ford Excursion 7.3 diesel
                              '07 Porsche Carrera S Cabriolet

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