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  • IIA
    1st Gear
    • Apr 2010
    • 151

    Wipers and turn signals died

    I started my 1970 IIA this morning to go to work, flipped on the wipers to clear the morning dew...and they died standing at attention, pointing to 12 o'clock. Later I noticed that the turn signals no longer work either. It's not the fuse. Can anyone suggest where to start? I'm assuming they're related because both worked until very recently.
    1970 Series IIA
    1964 Series IIA [sold]
  • siii8873
    Overdrive
    • Jul 2007
    • 1011

    #2
    the only common connection for the turn signals and wipers is the fuse or the feed from from the fuse. Assumes stock wiring. Test fuse to be sure.
    THING 1 - 1973 88 SIII - SOLD
    THING 2 -1974 88 SIII Daily Driver - SOLD
    THING 3 - 1969 88 SIIA Bugeye Project
    THING 4 - 1971 109 SIIA ExMod - SOLD
    THING 5 - 1958 109 PU
    THING 6 - 1954 86" HT

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    • Partsman
      3rd Gear
      • May 2011
      • 329

      #3
      Also clean the contacts for the fuse. I've found this would help the times this same thing happened to me.


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      Andy The Landy Shop

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      • LaneRover
        Overdrive
        • Oct 2006
        • 1743

        #4
        Originally posted by Partsman
        Also clean the contacts for the fuse. I've found this would help the times this same thing happened to me.
        Totally agree with this. I have found that some emory or 600grit sandpaper wrapped around a pencil works well - if of course it is still the glass tubes fuses . . .
        1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
        1965 109 SW - nearly running well
        1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
        1969 109 P-UP

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        • bugeye88
          1st Gear
          • Apr 2013
          • 167

          #5
          Always check for good grounds first! Sometimes its a poor ground that doesn't even appear to be part of that circuit, but is.

          Rob
          68 Bugeye 88

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          • IIA
            1st Gear
            • Apr 2010
            • 151

            #6
            Always check for good grounds first! Sometimes its a poor ground that doesn't even appear to be part of that circuit, but is.
            I cleaned the fuse and holder and now the turn signal works (though I think it just decided to work on its own). But the wipers are still dead as a doornail. I disconnected the wires at the motor and there's power there. How do I check the ground?

            I also forgot to mention that I recently opened up the motor to regrease it. It worked great afterwards but I'm hoping I didn't do something to it. If the motor was fried would I hear or smell something?
            1970 Series IIA
            1964 Series IIA [sold]

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            • siii8873
              Overdrive
              • Jul 2007
              • 1011

              #7
              hook up a temporary ground from the black lead to a good ground or even negative terminal to the battery to test if it is a ground problem.
              THING 1 - 1973 88 SIII - SOLD
              THING 2 -1974 88 SIII Daily Driver - SOLD
              THING 3 - 1969 88 SIIA Bugeye Project
              THING 4 - 1971 109 SIIA ExMod - SOLD
              THING 5 - 1958 109 PU
              THING 6 - 1954 86" HT

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              • bugeye88
                1st Gear
                • Apr 2013
                • 167

                #8
                Find the grounds, all the ones you can see, loosen them, clean them up until there is clean metal, tighten em up. This is key in all the electrical connections on your Landy. The electrics on these trucks is old and provide enough resistance in themselves not to have grounding points adding more resistance. Do this and you'll be surprised, brighter lights, wipers that work, better cranking, on and on.
                Rover On!

                Rob
                Bugeye88

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                • triumphtr7guy
                  Low Range
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 66

                  #9
                  And a dab of dielectric grease wont hurt whilst you have them apart!!
                  From one who knows!!! the demons of Lucas are appeased with good grounding.

                  Bruce
                  TR 7 reconstruct to beging soon, 73 Landy waiting in the wings

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                  • Partsman
                    3rd Gear
                    • May 2011
                    • 329

                    #10
                    Originally posted by triumphtr7guy
                    And a dab of dielectric grease wont hurt whilst you have them apart!!
                    From one who knows!!! the demons of Lucas are appeased with good grounding.

                    Bruce
                    TR 7 reconstruct to beging soon, 73 Landy waiting in the wings

                    All hail Lord Lucas, Prince of Darkness!


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                    Andy The Landy Shop

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                    • TedW
                      5th Gear
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 887

                      #11
                      Why don't Lucas lights work?

                      Because gentlemen do not go motoring after dark.....

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                      • fly cubs
                        Low Range
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 46

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TedW
                        Why don't Lucas lights work?

                        Because gentlemen do not go motoring after dark.....
                        Ha!


                        I'll throw another "check the grounding" onto the pile. Proper grounding seems to cure all that ails the electrical issues encountered on my Series truck.
                        1976 RHD Series 3 - SOLD
                        1989 Land Rover 90 LHD
                        1940 Piper J3F-50 Cub

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                        • IIA
                          1st Gear
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 151

                          #13
                          I've never used dielectric grease before. I did some searching on how to use it and most sites just say "apply it to the connectors." But isn't it too easy to get it on the metal parts that make the electrical connection? Wouldn't that insulate them?
                          1970 Series IIA
                          1964 Series IIA [sold]

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                          • triumphtr7guy
                            Low Range
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 66

                            #14
                            nope, wont insulate, the grease in conductive?? or neutral and covers the connections and keeps the air away and prevents the corrosion. Just smear it on the connector/bolt up point and a bit of peace of mind is acheived. Used to be you could buy stuff like this at Radio Shack, but now that they are the phone stores, electrical support is non existent. Most auto parts stores will have some. Its like the yellow grease you see on the headlight plugs on the new cars.

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                            • IIA
                              1st Gear
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 151

                              #15
                              I've tested everything I can think of on the wiper motor. The ground was good, I tested the armature and all the wires and everything has continuity where it should and not where it shouldn't. The only thing I can think of is that the brushes are pretty worn down. I tried touching wires directly to the commutator where the brushes would touch but that didn't do anything (should it?). Can anyone recommend a good source of replacement brushes? Or other things to try?
                              1970 Series IIA
                              1964 Series IIA [sold]

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