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  • Escargo
    Low Range
    • May 2008
    • 65

    New Elephant Hyde

    Well, I finally broke down and bought a set of the new EH seats for my lla from our hosts. My truck originally had them but were in bad shape and had been badly recovered. The new fabric is not exactly like the originals. Looks close at a glance but seems lighter in weight and not as textured. In any case, I needed to reinstall the non-adjustable seat frames. Each seat back comes with two sets of bolts to attach to the frames but, of course, no instructions. One set of bolts is "shouldered" and definitely does not fit into the frames. The seatbacks themselves do not even have a bolt hole. I can feel an indent under the fabric which I'm assuming I poke a hole in(?). From what I remember, each original EH seatback had studs which fit into the frame. Is my memory impaired? Has anyone else recently bought these new seats? I do remember asking the salesperson if they had the studs and he said yes.
  • TeriAnn
    Overdrive
    • Nov 2006
    • 1087

    #2
    Originally posted by Escargo
    Well, I finally broke down and bought a set of the new EH seats for my lla from our hosts. My truck originally had them but were in bad shape and had been badly recovered. The new fabric is not exactly like the originals. Looks close at a glance but seems lighter in weight and not as textured.
    I never purchased Exmoor Trim elephant Hyde seats but I did purchase and install their door panels about 5 years ago. When I removed the old panels a couple decades ago I saved a sample of the material that was folded over on the inside of the door cards because it hadn't seen decades of sunlight, dirt and wear. When I compared the new with the original I personally thought it was a close match of both colour and texture. MUCH SUPERIOR to Exmoor's early efforts. I didn't mic the thickness. The new door panels have been on for about 5 years new and still look new.

    Sorry but I cannot comment on the seats as I switched to heated Defender front seats when I renewed the interior. The back lumbar support makes long distance driving a LOT more comfortable.
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    Teriann Wakeman_________
    Flagstaff, AZ.




    1960 Land Rover Dormobile, owned since 1978

    My Land Rover web site

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    • swingkeel
      Low Range
      • Aug 2007
      • 30

      #3
      Elephant Hide front seats

      We bought a set of front seats for our 1967 2a 109. The EH material is a close enough match for me anyway. Been in for a year or so and holding up fine. The seat bottoms sit in the frames. The seat backs are hinged at the base for tilting forward. The tops of the seat back are strapped to the crossbar (not part of the seat frames) with a short leather strap (this arrangement may be different on an 88. The way the hinge is created is different depending on whether the seat frame is the adjustable type or not. The adjustable type have a threaded inset in the seat back bottom side location which takes a bolt. The non-adjustable seat backs have a protruding dowel with a through hole for a cotter pin. There should be directions that come with the seats. The biggest problem is understanding what frames you have (if they are not stock) and making sure you are clear in the description with your order.

      Michael
      Michael

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      • cedryck
        5th Gear
        • Sep 2010
        • 836

        #4
        Originally posted by swingkeel
        We bought a set of front seats for our 1967 2a 109. The EH material is a close enough match for me anyway. Been in for a year or so and holding up fine. The seat bottoms sit in the frames. The seat backs are hinged at the base for tilting forward. The tops of the seat back are strapped to the crossbar (not part of the seat frames) with a short leather strap (this arrangement may be different on an 88. The way the hinge is created is different depending on whether the seat frame is the adjustable type or not. The adjustable type have a threaded inset in the seat back bottom side location which takes a bolt. The non-adjustable seat backs have a protruding dowel with a through hole for a cotter pin. There should be directions that come with the seats. The biggest problem is understanding what frames you have (if they are not stock) and making sure you are clear in the description with your order.

        Michael
        How is the quality? I don't mind paying if the quality is there, my original flat military seats are shot, the dogs killed them quick. Is there any type of conditioner to use to try and prolong the life span, besides keeping the heavy stout Terriers out of the front,,,,

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        • Escargo
          Low Range
          • May 2008
          • 65

          #5
          Swingkeel, I possess both adj. and the original non-adj. seat frames. I wanted to put the EH seats on the non-adj. and specified the seatbacks w/ the studs. Simple mistake by RN. Problem solved today. Cedryck, I'll let you know after my own dog spends some time on these seats. The quality looks OK. But to my eye, not as tough as the old EH. Maybe it just has a softer feel. We'll see.

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          • swingkeel
            Low Range
            • Aug 2007
            • 30

            #6

            I think the quality is very good, BUT, I don't think that they will stand up to the punishment that your pooches will deliver. You may want to consider an additional layer of protection. How about some pictures of the dogs !

            Michael
            Michael

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            • cedryck
              5th Gear
              • Sep 2010
              • 836

              #7
              Originally posted by swingkeel
              I think the quality is very good, BUT, I don't think that they will stand up to the punishment that your pooches will deliver. You may want to consider an additional layer of protection. How about some pictures of the dogs !

              Michael
              Thanks, Michael, I am debating to replace my shoddy interior with the lovely grey Elephant hide, or an original looking flat military style seat. Either way the pooches will poke holes in them as they have with the other set, so I installed a dog fence and one usually rides in the back while Top dog (been with us longer) rides up front.
              As soon as I can figure out how to upload pictures, I will post some shots of the English Stafforshire Terriers. thanks for the reply.
              Jeffrey

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              • TeriAnn
                Overdrive
                • Nov 2006
                • 1087

                #8
                My sweet little puppy dog is NEVER allowed up front where his nails could damage my newish Defender seats.

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                But since dogs perspire through their lungs there are a lot of perspiration drips on the seats that I occasionally need to wipe away.
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                Teriann Wakeman_________
                Flagstaff, AZ.




                1960 Land Rover Dormobile, owned since 1978

                My Land Rover web site

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                • swingkeel
                  Low Range
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 30

                  #9


                  Sweet? Maybe. Dog? Obviously. Little puppy? I DON'T THINK SO! Cool dog ! Is it one of these?

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                  • cedryck
                    5th Gear
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 836

                    #10
                    Originally posted by swingkeel

                    Sweet? Maybe. Dog? Obviously. Little puppy? I DON'T THINK SO! Cool dog ! Is it one of these?

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                    That is an Irish Wolfhound the official Mascot of a branch of their Armed Forces.

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                    • TeriAnn
                      Overdrive
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 1087

                      #11
                      Originally posted by swingkeel

                      Sweet? Maybe.
                      Oh always so. A dog park dog from the time he got his puppy shots. With me at stores that allow dogs, at local festivals, frequently out in public where he gets exposed to strangers. Constantly petted by children. He has been raised to believe that a stranger is a friend he hasn't met yet. My big warning to people: "He does lick".

                      Originally posted by swingkeel
                      Dog? Obviously. Little puppy? I DON'T THINK SO!
                      OK, he is five. But he will always be my sweet little puppy


                      Originally posted by swingkeel
                      Cool dog ! Is it one of these?

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                      Yep. He's an Irish Wolfhound. He even has his own web page. Lots of baby pictures there.

                      I see you are in Maryland. If you go to the Overland Expo East this October you can meet him in the author's tent where I will be introducing my new book "The Essential Guide to Overland Travel in the United States and Canada. A Resource for Independent Travel and Camping".

                      My baby dog is also my traveling and camping companion.
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                      Teriann Wakeman_________
                      Flagstaff, AZ.




                      1960 Land Rover Dormobile, owned since 1978

                      My Land Rover web site

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                      • cedryck
                        5th Gear
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 836

                        #12
                        Sweet, looks sweet, but maybe not to strangers. My (car alarm) Staffy Terriers are nice to anyone as long as I am around the truck, not so nice if I walk away, one likes to growl at strangers. Love the picture Terriann!

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                        • TeriAnn
                          Overdrive
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 1087

                          #13
                          Originally posted by cedryck
                          Love the picture Terriann!
                          Thanks. That picture is on the chapter intro page of my chapter covering traveling with dogs. Hey, its my book so I didn't see any reason not to include a picture of my dog. It fairness the chapter has 2 pictures of my dog and 2 pictures of other people's dogs.
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                          Teriann Wakeman_________
                          Flagstaff, AZ.




                          1960 Land Rover Dormobile, owned since 1978

                          My Land Rover web site

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