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  • IIA
    1st Gear
    • Apr 2010
    • 151

    New fuel tank rusted and leaking

    I got a new fuel tank from our hosts about 2-3 years ago after my previous (original?) rusted out and began leaking. My mechanic said he sprayed it with something to protect it from rust. (I don't know what but he had a Ph.D in engineering and otherwise did good work so I assume it was nothing corrosive--can't ask now as he's died.)

    Now the new one appears to have rusted at the bottom seams and is oozing fuel. Could this be a flaw in the tank? Or could something else have happened? I put Stabil in the tank when I fill up (petrol) and I don't do off-roading (though my driveway is dirt), nor do I live in an area that puts lots of salt on the road (some, but just a few times/winter).

    At the risk of putting 2 questions in one post--is there anything that can be done besides replacing the tank again?
    1970 Series IIA
    1964 Series IIA [sold]
  • cedryck
    5th Gear
    • Sep 2010
    • 836

    #2
    Some people use a coating that is washed around on the inside of the tank to "seal" it. Discouraging to hear a new tank only held up 2-3 years. In my opinion a stock tank is subject to failure by design, the seams and edges separate and then leak, the metal is subject to corrosion. So having said that, a unit made of stainless, or aluminum , would be better.
    Last edited by cedryck; 11-07-2016, 02:37 PM.

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    • blueseriesii
      Low Range
      • Aug 2016
      • 21

      #3
      I have repaired my tank using epoxy resin. I first cleaned with one quart of water and one quart of gravel up to 1/2". Shake shake shake etc until the rinse water comes out clean. After drying in the sun for two days I poured in 2 cups pf West System Epoxy Resin. Next time I would use their new G-flex resin, it's much more flexible. If there is a large hole patch it with fiberglass cloth and epoxy resin on the outside. This has worked for me for many years.

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      • lumpydog
        3rd Gear
        • May 2014
        • 383

        #4
        Marine-Tex works really well when patching from the exterior as well.
        1968 Series IIa
        1997 Defender SW (Original Owner - Sold)

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        • IIA
          1st Gear
          • Apr 2010
          • 151

          #5
          From the looks of the rust on the outside, I'm guessing I'd need to pour something inside to seal the pinholes. But if I have to go to all the hassle of removing the tank, I might go for a new one instead. Does anyone sell aluminum or stainless tanks for a Series IIA? Or is that a custom job? I only saw the Proline model on RN's site.
          1970 Series IIA
          1964 Series IIA [sold]

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          • tolonian
            Low Range
            • Dec 2011
            • 42

            #6
            I believe Ike at Pangolan 4x4 is now selling SS tanks. Or there's the Spectra tanks. I also have a 70 IIA,I don't think Ike's tanks have the second pickup cutout for the line to the expansion tank.

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            • stomper
              5th Gear
              • Apr 2007
              • 889

              #7
              Yes, Ike at Pangolin4x4 now has stainless steel tanks available. There was a group buy of aluninium ones done by a group over on Guns and Rovers. The CAD plans are available if you want to go that route as well. You would need to find a tank shop that would build it for you, and would likely need to find enough buyers to get them done relatively cheaply in bulk.
              Bad gas mileage gets you to some of the greatest places on earth.

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              • cedryck
                5th Gear
                • Sep 2010
                • 836

                #8
                Sounds expensive. $$ Does anyone know about how much Ike is getting per unit?
                Last edited by cedryck; 11-08-2016, 03:20 PM.

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                • stomper
                  5th Gear
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 889

                  #9
                  He just posted pictures of them on Facebook. No price listed. Pretty easy to call and find out though.
                  Bad gas mileage gets you to some of the greatest places on earth.

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                  • cnfowler
                    1st Gear
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 150

                    #10
                    ~$200 for a Spectra tank. Well built and no leaks.


                    Colin

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                    • IIA
                      1st Gear
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 151

                      #11
                      I started to try removing the tank and the nuts are rusted. I supposed I shouldn't be surprised. I've tried soaking them with PB Blaster but they're too rusty. I might buy a nut splitter but I've read that they're not much good. Is there any safe way to use an angle grinder or a torch near the tank? I've drained it. Would it be safe when I can no longer smell fumes?
                      1970 Series IIA
                      1964 Series IIA [sold]

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                      • stomper
                        5th Gear
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 889

                        #12
                        I've always had luck with using a long breaker bar, and twisting the nut until the bolt twists off. If that doesn't work, I'd try a sawzall or a grinder next. Are you talking about the mounting bolts that hold the tank to the outrigger?

                        If you are scared, fill the tank with water.
                        Bad gas mileage gets you to some of the greatest places on earth.

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                        • leafsprung
                          Overdrive
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 1008

                          #13
                          Got sick of boiling,, acid dipping, welding and soldering on fuel tanks. Had some issues with aluminum - Stainless is the answer

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                          • cedryck
                            5th Gear
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 836

                            #14
                            Curious what issues did you have with AL?

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                            • IIA
                              1st Gear
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 151

                              #15
                              The problem is with the bolts on the back end of the tank. There's not enough room in there for a breaker bar. The farthest one is the worst. I can barely get my hand in there to hold a wrench. I like the water suggestion. I'll try some cutting this weekend.
                              1970 Series IIA
                              1964 Series IIA [sold]

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