Series IIa Front Axle (Stub axle/Spindle Assembly) Questions

[philbert]

Hello all!

I am relatively new to the forums, but am in the process of a frame-off restoration of a 1970 Series IIa. I had a few random questions that popped up while I was taking apart the front axles, and was hoping someone might be able to provide some guidance -

1) When taking the hub seal race off of the stub axle (part #29 on the Hub Assembly diagram @ https://www.roversnorth.com/category/69_land_rover_series_ii_iia_iii_drivetrain), I accidentally drilled through the race and took a small chip of the stub axle (aka the spindle assembly/part # 28). Rookie mistake, I know. Is this a big deal (aka needs replaced) or can it just be filed smooth? Pics included below
2) In the Series III parts manual there is reference to a "Spring for cone bearing" directly underneath the shims for the steering arm, is this actually a part (pic of parts manual attached)? It is not listed on the Roversnorth diagram on the same page as above.
3) In the hub assembly diagram mentioned above, what is part #27? In the LR Series 3 parts manual it is labeled as the "Bush for Driving Shaft", again is this a piece that needs replaced or is it already integrated into the half shaft?

Much appreciated. Am hoping to have the rolling chassis and drivetrain in by the end of this year -

Phil

[caperover]

RE: Nick to stub axle

I just replaced all 4 distance pieces on my '66 FFR series IIA.
I had to drill and cold chisel all 4 off.

In my experience, you should be fine in regard to the nick. It should be smoothed down, but there's no sealing going on in that area. The oil sealing area on the stub is the inner circumference of the landing and the stub. The oil seal that seats into the hub assembly fits over the landing but should not contact the back of the stub.

When reassembling, I heated my the landing piece with a propane torch and 3 of 4 dropped right on and shrunk tight. One I had to persuade with a block of wood and a hammer, but they're all tight.

Not sure why some folks put sealant under the bottom beveled lip of the landing other than to keep water out.

best

Roger B

[Myron]

I agree with Roger. I wouldn't worry about the nick/drill spot on the stub axle. I've done this numerous times, using a chisel to remove the old distance piece, and never had one leak afterwards.

[jp-]

I use a 4-1/2" angle grinder with a cutoff blade. Just put an angled cut in the ring (doesn't have to be too deep, or even across the full length) taking care not to hit the bottom lip or go too deep. Then whack it with a small chisel right in the notch. I've found it to be much faster/easier than drilling and chiselling. Always splits easily along the notch line.

You don't need that spring if you're working on a S2A. I think that was an earlier type.

I believe the bushing (#27) was a brass piece that was on earlier Rover hubs, prior to the installation of a bearing (#6) in the swivel balls. You shouldn't need it.

[roverp480]

Hello all!

I am relatively new to the forums, but am in the process of a frame-off restoration of a 1970 Series IIa. I had a few random questions that popped up while I was taking apart the front axles, and was hoping someone might be able to provide some guidance -

2) In the Series III parts manual there is reference to a "Spring for cone bearing" directly underneath the shims for the steering arm, is this actually a part (pic of parts manual attached)? It is not listed on the Roversnorth diagram on the same page as above.
3) In the hub assembly diagram mentioned above, what is part #27? In the LR Series 3 parts manual it is labeled as the "Bush for Driving Shaft", again is this a piece that needs replaced or is it already integrated into the half shaft?


Phil
I am interested in your S3 parts manual for the parts you refer , spring for cone bearing and the bush for driving shaft were both deleted during the Series 2 and 2A production run and according to two Land Rover parts Books I have including a S3 (RTC9007) , they never fitted to a S3
The spring for cone bearing was part of the spring loaded cone swivel pin damping and was replaced by the Railko bush type in the mid to late 1960's . The drive shaft bush was deleted when a strengthened stub axle was introduced .