Question on my IIa's Heater...

[Bostonian1976]

I've noticed recently that no other Rovers that I've seen have the second piece of dash running below their guages....I never realized it until recently. This is the heater and air blows from the left and right side of this piece....is it not factory or do I just have a different year? see below the speedometer...the horizontal blue section

[Leslie]

I note that you have a single-motor wiper, so you have a later IIa, not an earlier one....

Earlier Series had the Smith's shin-roasters (the round squirrel cages), or later, the flat Smiths, right on the firewall in front of the shifter. Yours is later, part of the progression towards what would become the SIII.

[landi41]

Pretty good oil pressure

[TSR53]

Great photo of your dashboard! The original linked image you posted was so wide it punched a new hole through the side of our new forum - you busted it already... drats. LOL!! I figured out the coding change to keep it clean, scrolling and fitting properly . Keep it up guys, good threads.

[Bostonian1976]

Pretty good oil pressure

ha yeah that's a project for next summer. though the truck is running extremely well now, none of my guages work oil pressure goes sky high, temp doesn't register at all, and gas stays at "full"

[greenmeanie]

It's the heater duct.

As stated above on late IIA's you have the SIII type heater that is situated in the front wing. The piece you show should havwe a rather quaint little door on the end that allows you to shut off whatever tepid air flow comes from the heater to your right kneecap.

The NADA IIa's a t least oriinally had a piece of soft vinyl trim to cover the duct but I can't find a new one to replace mine. If you check the previous posts you will see the part numbers provided by our hosts.

Cheers
Gregor

[2rovers]

I luv my Kodiak heater for the Canadian winter. minus 9 C yesterday and I had to keep turning it off.

[Bostonian1976]

heaters

thanks guys! Late IIa is classified as what? '67 up? My truck is such a mystery. I think it's mostly '67.....

How rare is the Kodiak? I have an opportunity to get one, though I can honestly say that the factory heater isn't so bad on mine...

[Leslie]

thanks guys! Late IIa is classified as what? '67 up? My truck is such a mystery. I think it's mostly '67.....

How rare is the Kodiak? I have an opportunity to get one, though I can honestly say that the factory heater isn't so bad on mine...

'68 was the transition year, called a bugeye, because the headlights were moved from the radiator support panel (aka the breakfast) to the wings; they just kinda were mounted there, though. '69 is when the front of the wings became pressed like you see on SIII's... so, '69-'71 is a late IIa.

However, changes started creeping in earlier.... switch from pos to neg ground, from dual to single motor on the wipers, improvements on the heaters...


Kodiaks are kinda rare, and, usually aren't cheap. RN has a heater that would do as well (the Mansfield(?), but also isn't cheap). However, w/ the late IIa/III style of heater, you don't have the lack of heat that the earlier shin-roasters have.... I wouldn't change out, unless I was in Fairbanks....

[KingSlug]

If you are really cold...

Most land rover heaters except the "shinburner" are fresh air units. If you are really cold you could modify the air intake to pull preheated air from your interior just like recirculate on later cars. I have seen this done on rovers in NW Canada, but I can't remember the actual setup except the air in was in the passenger footwell.

I have seen the heater distribution box pictured on a few rovers, I think rover even sold it as a kit because I have seen them on older S2 rovers or the owner retro-fitted them.

If you are looking for info on Kodiaks heaters try HERE.

[J!m]

I added a second heater to my 110 for the trip to James Bay last February. It was from JC Whitney and was quite cheap. Made by Flex-A-Lite (the engine fan guys) and will melt glass if you let it.

We were in -40 degree weather, and we had the truck up to 78 degrees (F) inside when we couldn't stand it any longer. We wanted to see how hot we could get it... We had to turn it off and open the windows to cool off or risk heat stroke in sub-arctic Canada in February. Try explaining that one...

Now to be fair, I also have the truck well insulated, with foil-faced fiberglass above the headliner, foil-faced rigid foam (1" thick) on the roof sides, and foil-faced rigid foam (1/4") on the rear roof area. No other insulation (aside from the footwell "insulation" from the factory) has been added.

Mike has one of these on his 101 to replace the big, expensive hard-to find and welded to the truck stock heater. it works better, and is smaller with a better fan. Ther is another version with provisions for ducting as well if you want to get fancy.

And yes, it gets so hot because it recycles the warm air in the truck. The stock heater uses fresh air all the time, so the colder it is outside, the colder it is inside. My '71 is stil stock, and the heater is crappy because of this.

[AlohaRover]

'68 was the transition year, called a bugeye, because the headlights were moved from the radiator support panel (aka the breakfast) to the wings; they just kinda were mounted there, though. '69 is when the front of the wings became pressed like you see on SIII's... so, '69-'71 is a late IIa.

I thought the bugeyes were 69 and the sunk in headlights began in 1970?
I know of a Jun 69 that had the bugeye, but who knows if it was original.

[J!m]

As far as I know that is correct. The "late IIa" begins in 1970-1971, then the III started.

I have a 1971.

The "bug eye" was as far as I know 1969 only, until they got tooled up for the change. They just moved the headlights from the rad support to the fenders with no other changes, so they 'bug out' from the fenders a bit. Quite rare, as it was only the one year (and possibly not the entire year).

The change was driven by the Australian market I believe, where the headlights must not be so far in-board...

[Bostonian1976]

figure this one out

well...


I have an inboard-headlight, banjo steering wheel, horizontal heater (as mentioned previous), boosted-brake (dual-circuit), single wiper motor, black guage panel Series. Try and figure out what year that is! lol

[J!m]

Now we start to understand the down-side of part interchangability since the dawn of man...