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NC Rover
12-19-2007, 08:30 AM
Hello all. First time Rover owner. Recently bought a '71 Series IIa. Just wanted to know if anyone could point me towards a few sites for multiple parts such as hoses, etc.

My other question involves the speedometer. The glass is broken out on both the speedometer and the fuel/oil gauge. Will this be something I can replace just the glass or will I need to find an entire new cluster?

thanks!
Nick

EDIT: here are some pics....

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/IMG_7209.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/IMG_7175.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/IMG_7199.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/IMG_7190.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/IMG_7171.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/IMG_7170.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/IMG_7168.jpg


Here you can see the back fender is bent in as well as a bit of the cross member....trying to figure out if I could have a body shop fix it best they could or just find a new fender and cross memer. Any suggestions are welcomed.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/IMG_7188.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/IMG_7177.jpg

2rovers
12-19-2007, 08:57 AM
Our hosts Rovers North should be able to help with most parts. Or there are many UK sites, but shipping and duty are issues.

LaneRover
12-19-2007, 09:10 AM
There are also places around the rebuild gauges and may be able to send the glass. Though if it all has to come apart to replace the glass then I would just have it re-built. I would check and see if it looks like the glass comes off at the front or if the entire thing has to come apart. If it just comes off at the front then have a local glass shop make some up.

Off the top of my head I can't think of any of the places that rebuild gauges but I am sure that someone will chime in.

Brent

greenmeanie
12-19-2007, 09:15 AM
Once they gauge clusters are removed from the truck the bezels can be twisted of by turning them through something less than 1/8 turn. It is a bayonet type arrangement. The glass is quite thin, more like the thickness used in picture frames. There is also a gasket ring seal to keep moisture out.

If the bezel isn't rusted on it's quite an easy job.

Cheers
Gregor

PH4
12-19-2007, 10:06 AM
Here you go http://www.nisonger.com/

They do good work.

singingcamel
12-19-2007, 02:42 PM
should be able to go to a glass shop. might be able to cut one for you.
if not i may have a spare piece for you..
www.singingcamel.com (http://www.singingcamel.com)

NC Rover
12-19-2007, 06:53 PM
Once they gauge clusters are removed from the truck the bezels can be twisted of by turning them through something less than 1/8 turn. It is a bayonet type arrangement. The glass is quite thin, more like the thickness used in picture frames. There is also a gasket ring seal to keep moisture out.

If the bezel isn't rusted on it's quite an easy job.

Cheers
Gregor

Wow awesome information. Thanks again for all the help!

NC Rover
12-19-2007, 06:56 PM
should be able to go to a glass shop. might be able to cut one for you.
if not i may have a spare piece for you..
www.singingcamel.com (http://www.singingcamel.com)

Thanks! The back driver's side quarter panel and back corner cross member were bent in due to the previous owner's wife leaving the park brake off. The rover rolled into something. I'll add some pics.

Daurie
12-19-2007, 07:54 PM
I spy a 928 in the garage too! I remember in my early teens going ape over those things. I wanted one so bad. It was something about a Porsche with a V8. :)

The s2a looks nice. I'm eyeing that front bumper too. It looks pretty beefy. I'm in the process of deciding on a bumper with a winch mount.

So what are your plans for the truck? If you're like me you've already cleaned or replaced or fixed every single part... in your thoughts.

4flattires
12-19-2007, 08:23 PM
...yet another Rover posted on the site that makes mine look like ....well....errr...ugh...

Welcome to the forum. Keep us posted of your triumphs! (no, not cars)

:thumb-up:

Jeff

BirdNerd
12-19-2007, 09:13 PM
Nick,

That is a VERY nice truck---Hmmmm coil springs, fuel filler on rt rear corner, what year did you say it was???

My advice; stick with our hosts, for a hybrid truck like that you will spend WAY too much time explaining what you have to the dope at Pep boys.

The RN crew know Series and Defender trucks inside out. Simple stuff like gauges, bits and bobs can be found on fleabay--

Porsche--Land Rover---Dude, you're done!!!

Cheers
BN

NC Rover
12-19-2007, 09:55 PM
I spy a 928 in the garage too! I remember in my early teens going ape over those things. I wanted one so bad. It was something about a Porsche with a V8. :)

The s2a looks nice. I'm eyeing that front bumper too. It looks pretty beefy. I'm in the process of deciding on a bumper with a winch mount.

So what are your plans for the truck? If you're like me you've already cleaned or replaced or fixed every single part... in your thoughts.

Hah! Thanks! You are correct. Actually the Porsche is my friend brent's. We both love to fix up old vehicles but I've always wanted a rover. My daily is a '93 VW Corrado SLC and my other project car is a '68 Impala which i'm probably about to sell after 8 years of fun with it. I just sold a '71 Ford Bronco that I semi-restored and had finally got the money to pick up a land rover...finally.

Brent just finished restoring a bunch of stuff on the Porsche. He is actually about to sell it if you are interested and even told me he would be interested in possibly trading for a Series vehicle. He loves Rovers too. The Porsche is flawless. Runs perfect and just got serviced. I'll take detailed pics if you are interested.

Again, thanks to all for the great information. I will definitly be asking plenty of questions. I've tried to do my research but theres so much stuff for me to learn. Thanks for welcoming a noob.

The Porsche and VW...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/My%20C/c09.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/My%20C/IMG_6523.jpg

The Rover is 1000 times better than the bronco I had. I can't tell you how long I looked for the Rover. I plan to keep it for a long long time. Hopefully drive to some get togethers.

NC Rover
12-19-2007, 10:06 PM
Nick,

That is a VERY nice truck---Hmmmm coil springs, fuel filler on rt rear corner, what year did you say it was???

My advice; stick with our hosts, for a hybrid truck like that you will spend WAY too much time explaining what you have to the dope at Pep boys.

The RN crew know Series and Defender trucks inside out. Simple stuff like gauges, bits and bobs can be found on fleabay--

Porsche--Land Rover---Dude, you're done!!!

Cheers
BN

Hey thanks! Actually it has a reserve gas tank so the filler on the back is for that. You can toggle between the tanks. Its a 1971. However the previous owner had the 2.5 liter engine shipped over. The frame was custom made. I know he put in the LT 77 Tranny with the R230 transfer case. It has D90 axles and coil springs. Front disc brakes and a Jacobs ignition. I have a new set of Old Man Emu springs that were thrown in too so that should put it at 2 1/2 " lift. I will definitly be asking everyone for advice. I'm just glad everyone is so friendly!

friar mike
12-20-2007, 01:29 AM
Hah! Thanks! You are correct. Actually the Porsche is my friend brent's. We both love to fix up old vehicles but I've always wanted a rover. My daily is a '93 VW Corrado SLC and my other project car is a '68 Impala which i'm probably about to sell after 8 years of fun with it. I just sold a '71 Ford Bronco that I semi-restored and had finally got the money to pick up a land rover...finally.

Brent just finished restoring a bunch of stuff on the Porsche. He is actually about to sell it if you are interested and even told me he would be interested in possibly trading for a Series vehicle. He loves Rovers too. The Porsche is flawless. Runs perfect and just got serviced. I'll take detailed pics if you are interested.

Again, thanks to all for the great information. I will definitly be asking plenty of questions. I've tried to do my research but theres so much stuff for me to learn. Thanks for welcoming a noob.

The Porsche and VW...


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/My%20C/IMG_6523.jpg

The Rover is 1000 times better than the bronco I had. I can't tell you how long I looked for the Rover. I plan to keep it for a long long time. Hopefully drive to some get togethers.
Nice cars I run a auto shop up here in Alaska I specialize in old english cars and German cars and in The summer high end motorcycle like bmw's yep the old 928's were fun but still like the 911 for seat of your pants driving. in my shop now is my SIII 109 and my wifes ride a Audi TT quattro very big fun in the snow.

Terrys
12-20-2007, 05:25 AM
There is also a gasket ring seal to keep moisture out.
Oh yeah, and they work so well. Actually I think it only helps to keep it from rattling.

NC, If you get stuck, I've got alot of old guages and in most, the glass is about all thats anygood.

TSR53
12-20-2007, 09:28 AM
Nice cars I run a auto shop up here in Alaska I specialize in old english cars and German cars and in The summer high end motorcycle like bmw's yep the old 928's were fun but still like the 911 for seat of your pants driving. in my shop now is my SIII 109 and my wifes ride a Audi TT quattro very big fun in the snow.

Nice German cars! I have to admit, I'm a major gearhead too...

jp-
12-20-2007, 10:25 AM
I spy a 928 in the garage too! I remember in my early teens going ape over those things. I wanted one so bad. It was something about a Porsche with a V8. :)

The s2a looks nice. I'm eyeing that front bumper too. It looks pretty beefy. I'm in the process of deciding on a bumper with a winch mount.

So what are your plans for the truck? If you're like me you've already cleaned or replaced or fixed every single part... in your thoughts.

I also noticed the 928. Still want one. The closest I got was a 78 924. I wish I hadn't sold it, but the fuel system gave constant trouble.

jp-
12-20-2007, 10:30 AM
Nice cars I run a auto shop up here in Alaska I specialize in old english cars and German cars and in The summer high end motorcycles like bmw's ...

They have motorcycles in Alaska?

Who knew...

NC Rover
12-20-2007, 11:50 AM
Nice cars I run a auto shop up here in Alaska I specialize in old english cars and German cars and in The summer high end motorcycle like bmw's yep the old 928's were fun but still like the 911 for seat of your pants driving. in my shop now is my SIII 109 and my wifes ride a Audi TT quattro very big fun in the snow.

thanks! I absolutely love German sports cars. My friend also has an '86 911 and a '88 M5. Both of us usually will buy a project car for cheap, fix it up, sell it for a profit and split the money we make on it. Easy way to make a little extra cash to fund other projects.

The 911 is quite fun and super torquey. Drives amazing on the highway and the faster you go, the more it hunkers down and becomes more stable.

I started out with nothing and saved up just enough to buy a vehicle. Put a lot of elbow grease into it cleaning it up and sold it for a profit. I proved to myself that I could do it and did this a few times which allowed me to get rid of one and buy another by constantly building up the value. I just love older 80's and 90's sports cars and early 60's and 70's rigs like the rover. Since older vehicles are so easy to fix and maintain, its a lot of fun to have as a hobby. I'm hoping to keep the Rover for quite awhile as I think it would be something really cool to pass down to my kids whenever I have some one day.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/My%20C/IMG_6144.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/My%20C/IMG_3414.jpg

greenmeanie
12-20-2007, 12:32 PM
Nick,
That rear cross member is repairable if it is only the rear outrigger piece that is bent. My friend with a Dodge Dakota decided to modify the rear end of my 71 IIa with similar results. Unfortunately for him my hi-lift was in the way so I had some panel damage and he trashed every panel in the front rh corner of his truck:) Teaches him why mobiles and trucks are a bad thing.

My solution was to take the truck down to the local power transmission lines and string her up between two pylons (Serious big concrete things) using my recovery gear. I was able to hook a shackle through the bent end of the x member and then used the hi-lift to pull her straight. Take a straight edge with you to determine when you've got it back into position. This would be a lot better than cutting an welding that pretty galvy chassis you've got there.

Of course, as everyone here in my area replaces their shiny bimmers every two years I got a lot of funny looks from people driving by. I felt I really should complete their image of an oily, hairy, knuckledragger by taking the starting handle out and beating the truck with it but they would have probably called the police then.

Oh yeah, that's some serious ironmongery you've got holding the front of the truck together.

Cheers
Gregor.

NC Rover
12-20-2007, 02:46 PM
Nick,
That rear cross member is repairable if it is only the rear outrigger piece that is bent. My friend with a Dodge Dakota decided to modify the rear end of my 71 IIa with similar results. Unfortunately for him my hi-lift was in the way so I had some panel damage and he trashed every panel in the front rh corner of his truck:) Teaches him why mobiles and trucks are a bad thing.

My solution was to take the truck down to the local power transmission lines and string her up between two pylons (Serious big concrete things) using my recovery gear. I was able to hook a shackle through the bent end of the x member and then used the hi-lift to pull her straight. Take a straight edge with you to determine when you've got it back into position. This would be a lot better than cutting an welding that pretty galvy chassis you've got there.

Of course, as everyone here in my area replaces their shiny bimmers every two years I got a lot of funny looks from people driving by. I felt I really should complete their image of an oily, hairy, knuckledragger by taking the starting handle out and beating the truck with it but they would have probably called the police then.

Oh yeah, that's some serious ironmongery you've got holding the front of the truck together.

Cheers
Gregor.

Gregor-

Thanks a bunch for the info. Not a bad idea if I could only find two powerlines and put the rover on "the rack". The rear outrigger piece of the crossmember is the only part that is bent. Everything else is straight...well minus the entire rear portion of the back left quarterpanel. For now I'm going to attempt to get that stuff straightened out as good as can be.

Currently looking for the following parts:

-Metal cage around driver's side rear taillights
-Glass for both speedo dial and temp dial
-Winch (nothing crazy but a decent all-around winch. Suggestions are welcomed too.)
-Both red and yellow side markers for driver's side of vehicle (just the color plastic covers. I have the bases.)

friar mike
12-20-2007, 03:03 PM
They have motorcycles in Alaska?

Who knew...
We have the most perperson in the 50 states figure that one out. there are nutbars out here right now on studed tires.

friar mike
12-20-2007, 03:14 PM
thanks! I absolutely love German sports cars. My friend also has an '86 911 and a '88 M5. Both of us usually will buy a project car for cheap, fix it up, sell it for a profit and split the money we make on it. Easy way to make a little extra cash to fund other projects.

The 911 is quite fun and super torquey. Drives amazing on the highway and the faster you go, the more it hunkers down and becomes more stable.

I started out with nothing and saved up just enough to buy a vehicle. Put a lot of elbow grease into it cleaning it up and sold it for a profit. I proved to myself that I could do it and did this a few times which allowed me to get rid of one and buy another by constantly building up the value. I just love older 80's and 90's sports cars and early 60's and 70's rigs like the rover. Since older vehicles are so easy to fix and maintain, its a lot of fun to have as a hobby. I'm hoping to keep the Rover for quite awhile as I think it would be something really cool to pass down to my kids whenever I have some one day.




heres a little fun car me and a friend built. all tube frame big disk brake's 3.6L 911 engine 915 5 speed gearbox HOLY **** quick the only thing bug about this car is the body.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/friarmike/P2200083.jpg

NC Rover
12-20-2007, 06:28 PM
heres a little fun car me and a friend built. all tube frame big disk brake's 3.6L 911 engine 915 5 speed gearbox HOLY **** quick the only thing bug about this car is the body.


Man that is an incredibly awesome car. I'm a huge VW fan. I'll definitly have to see some more of your work.

Two Questions tonight. Lets see if anyone can give some direction....b

1.) Can anyone identify some of the following miscellaneous parts pictured? I know the bottom right is something to do with fuel pressure or maybe an old fuel pump? Fuel related at least. I'm thinking the big thing is the old stock brake cylinder? I do know the cigarette lighter is top right but I dont' know where to install it or where it originally went.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/MiscParts.jpg

2.) I took the door panel, armrest, etc off the door to clean the inside out and look for any rust or problems. I discovered that water collects inside a trough under the window. When its full, the water drips inside the door and gets the door panel (which is made of absorbing particle wood...go figure) wet on the inside. --- Is there suppose to be some type of drain hole to drain the water outside of the inner door panel...similar to having a vapor barrier? I'm trying to understand what is going on. The felts in the window tracks have been replaced in the near past. Should I drill a small hole somewhere to allow it to drain? If so, where? See pictures below:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/InsideDoor.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/InsideDoor02.jpg

Bout to recover these and redo all the carpet....

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/InsideDoor03.jpg

NC Rover
12-20-2007, 06:52 PM
During the process of cleaning out the Rover, I discovered a few more parts.

1.) Can anyone identify this gauge cluster? Is it originally from a Rover or a military vehicle?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/Gauge01.jpg

2.) I thought this was a really cool find. The original General Electric spotlight that came with the rover...or was made for it.....

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/Light02.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/Light01.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/Light03.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/LightandGauge.jpg

Enigma
12-20-2007, 07:05 PM
Hopefully some help! The chrome devices in the center that look like your mother's hair rollers Are I believe, after market rollers for seat belts that were added on in the 60's and 70's before the mechanisism we ure used to today. In the lower left it appears to be a hold-down dog that was used with a bolt to anchor the spare tire on the dish on the bonnet(hood). You should have 2. In fact the other iten to its right 2 spaces may be the hold down bolt. In later series than mine I think I have seen only one dog used as the second was replaced with a pin that went thru one of the wheel's lug hole and had a hole to accomodate a hasp lock.

Right lower looks like a fuel pump without the glass bowl and strainer.

Hope this helps!

Cheers John

Enigma
12-20-2007, 07:13 PM
Ahhh Nostalgia That chrome spotlight is identical to one I purchased for my first car - a 53 Buick - straight 8, sedan. I got mine from Canadian Tire but it had a cigarette plug on the end whereas yous is fitted with the banana plug that goes in the sockets on the centre dash panel.

NC Rover
12-20-2007, 07:13 PM
Hopefully some help! The chrome devices in the center that look like your mother's hair rollers Are I believe, after market rollers for seat belts that were added on in the 60's and 70's before the mechanisism we ure used to today. In the lower left it appears to be a hold-down dog that was used with a bolt to anchor the spare tire on the dish on the bonnet(hood). You should have 2. In fact the other iten to its right 2 spaces may be the hold down bolt. In later series than mine I think I have seen only one dog used as the second was replaced with a pin that went thru one of the wheel's lug hole and had a hole to accomodate a hasp lock.

Right lower looks like a fuel pump without the glass bowl and strainer.

Hope this helps!

Cheers John

John,

this is a big help. I was going to assume the to pieces and the big bolt were something to do with the spare tire. Now if I could just find a picture showing how it attaches to the hood.

Anyone know what the little green spring in the top middle and the other item to the right of it are?

thanks!
Nick

Daurie
12-20-2007, 07:23 PM
The three items on the bottom right are for a hood mount spare tire carrier. The 2 L shaped pieces secure the tire and the bolt (one of two) is what holds it down. to the right of those 3 pieces is a fuel pump. Not sure what the 2 chrome plated things are. Cigarette lighter (obviously) , to the left of the lighter are some distributor points. The green spring is undoubtly for a brake assembly (possibly parking brake). a steering box top right. Above that to the right a 16 or 20 oz styrofoam cup, to the right of that a NGK box. To the right of that tube of Permatex Ultra Black (good stuff) Above that a roll of blue painters masking tape. :D

How'd I do?

NC Rover
12-20-2007, 07:32 PM
The three items on the bottom right are for a hood mount spare tire carrier. The 2 L shaped pieces secure the tire and the bolt (one of two) is what holds it down. to the right of those 3 pieces is a fuel pump. Not sure what the 2 chrome plated things are. Cigarette lighter (obviously) , to the left of the lighter are some distributor points. The green spring is undoubtly for a brake assembly (possibly parking brake). a steering box top right. Above that to the right a 16 or 20 oz styrofoam cup, to the right of that a NGK box. To the right of that tube of Permatex Ultra Black (good stuff) Above that a roll of blue painters masking tape. :D

How'd I do?

You got an A+. hah

Daurie
12-20-2007, 07:35 PM
LOL :) :thumb-up: :D

Enigma
12-20-2007, 07:53 PM
Daurie!! I think you did well. Not sure of your directions I feel. Check out your left and right or are you in Britain or like my wife - Turn left -right here.

I think that the green spring is a shoe returm spring possibly top, for an 88 in model- either fron or rear. Since I hve 2 feet + snow here and more coming before Christmas, I am not going to pull a wheel to check that out.

That L shaped piece is not familiar - it is not on any of my spare wheel carriers.

John:thumb-up:

friar mike
12-20-2007, 11:28 PM
During the process of cleaning out the Rover, I discovered a few more parts.

1.) Can anyone identify this gauge cluster? Is it originally from a Rover or a military vehicle?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/Gauge01.jpg


well this cluster is US military but I can't plase it at this time. its not from a m151, m37 or m38 almost looks like it was off of a gen set or something.

friar mike
12-20-2007, 11:32 PM
The three items on the bottom right are for a hood mount spare tire carrier. The 2 L shaped pieces secure the tire and the bolt (one of two) is what holds it down. to the right of those 3 pieces is a fuel pump. Not sure what the 2 chrome plated things are. Cigarette lighter (obviously) , to the left of the lighter are some distributor points. The green spring is undoubtly for a brake assembly (possibly parking brake). a steering box top right. Above that to the right a 16 or 20 oz styrofoam cup, to the right of that a NGK box. To the right of that tube of Permatex Ultra Black (good stuff) Above that a roll of blue painters masking tape. :D

How'd I do?
you missed the white towel under all of that.

Dav1550
12-20-2007, 11:36 PM
2.) --- Is there suppose to be some type of drain hole to drain the water outside of the inner door panel...similar to having a vapor barrier? I'm trying to understand what is going on. The felts in the window tracks have been replaced in the near past. Should I drill a small hole somewhere to allow it to drain? If so, where? See pictures below:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/InsideDoor.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/InsideDoor02.jpg





The water that leaks down past the window tracks should flow out the 2 weep holes....Located on the exsterior bottom edge of the door tops ....1.5" or so from the front and rear,,,,, If they're blocked water can collect in the lower cavity of the window frames.


Dave

Daurie
12-21-2007, 07:23 AM
Daurie!! I think you did well. Not sure of your directions I feel. Check out your left and right or are you in Britain or like my wife - Turn left -right here.

I think that the green spring is a shoe returm spring possibly top, for an 88 in model- either fron or rear. Since I hve 2 feet + snow here and more coming before Christmas, I am not going to pull a wheel to check that out.

That L shaped piece is not familiar - it is not on any of my spare wheel carriers.

John:thumb-up:

Did I get my left and right mixed up AGAIN!!!?? After as many years as it's been ... Turn left.. right? Right! right? or left?? all the while pointing both directions.

The spare tire holddown is a definate. I've seen a few variations of tire securing options which all have diffirent hardware. It seems like the others all employ some sort of strap where on mine which uses the shown pieces its all 'hard" wear and no straps. I need to take some pictures of various things.. I'll snap one of the tire carrier.

:D

Daurie
12-21-2007, 07:24 AM
you missed the white towel under all of that.

Such a stickler for details!! :) I was wondering what those items are in that clear bag...

NC Rover
12-21-2007, 08:09 AM
Such a stickler for details!! :) I was wondering what those items are in that clear bag...

Hah. Those items would be lots of rivets, etc.

NC Rover
12-21-2007, 08:13 AM
The water that leaks down past the window tracks should flow out the 2 weep holes....Located on the exsterior bottom edge of the door tops ....1.5" or so from the front and rear,,,,, If they're blocked water can collect in the lower cavity of the window frames.


Dave

Thanks dave. I checked and did not see a weep hole anywhere on the exterior upper part of the door. I may end up taking it off to inspect further. I guess if anything, i could drill a small hole. Just want to make sure I do it in the right place.

jp-
12-21-2007, 08:42 AM
Damn, too late.

I love "name this part."

In fact, we should have a weekly part naming thread. What do you think RN?

Les Parker
12-21-2007, 09:26 AM
I'll name that part in "One" !!

Sure, I'll start an open "feely mealy" next week.
Have to think over the Christmas time of some stuff to get it going..


:thumb-up:

Dav1550
12-21-2007, 10:26 AM
Thanks dave. I checked and did not see a weep hole anywhere on the exterior upper part of the door. I may end up taking it off to inspect further. I guess if anything, i could drill a small hole. Just want to make sure I do it in the right place.

They liable to not be there...... For one reason or another....

Will attempt to post-up a pic, The weep holes are located 1.5" to 1 5/8" from the edge.

Dave

NC Rover
12-21-2007, 10:53 AM
They liable to not be there...... For one reason or another....

Will attempt to post-up a pic, The weep holes are located 1.5" to 1 5/8" from the edge.

Dave

EDIT: I did in fact find the weep holes. They were covered/sealed up by the rubber gasket that is in between the upper window frame and lower door, thus causing the water to pool up inside the door and leak towards the inside.

I had to cut away a bit of rubber to free up the hole. Now water leaks out. Thanks again for the tip!

daveb
12-21-2007, 11:36 AM
green spring is a handbrake shoe return spring.

Daurie
12-21-2007, 02:32 PM
green spring is a handbrake shoe return spring.

AHHHHH!!! I was right!!! I haven't ever even seen one but I had a feeling. Mechanical intuition.

Those pictures of the weep holes in the upper door were taken from a clean ride.. I'd be interested in seeing a picture of the whole truck!

PH4
12-21-2007, 05:13 PM
Dave 1550, nice galvanized trin. Who did it for you?

Terrys
12-21-2007, 05:40 PM
I was wondering how long it was going to take for someone to pick up on the fact that this was a coiler. Not only a coiler, but an AWD coiler, being LT230, LT77.

Did you know that you have one of the rarest accessories that came with Land Rovers. I have had a few of those cute little two pin plugs, that is attached to your nice vintage spotlamp. I did a 'Name That Part on LRO a few years ago, and NO One had seen one. You should have heard some of the dumb guesses.
How is it that we all tend to think alike? I, too have an '86 911 (Targa), a 1275 Mini CooperS (1974) a '53 MG-TD, a '61 MK2 Jag, 6 land rovers ,and 5 pre '60 British bikes. I lusted after a Moto Guzzi ISDT back in the '60s. They imported 100 to the US. I found one, and it was bought new by a guy in Anchorge, who put it in his basement after riding it 2 weeks, then proceded to die. It looks like something out of a well sealed time capsule

Dav1550
12-21-2007, 09:23 PM
Those pictures of the weep holes in the upper door were taken from a clean ride.. I'd be interested in seeing a picture of the whole truck!

Here ya go.... SIIIsw 6/cyl

Daurie
12-21-2007, 10:07 PM
Now thats a clean engine compartment.

NC Rover
12-22-2007, 01:40 AM
I was wondering how long it was going to take for someone to pick up on the fact that this was a coiler. Not only a coiler, but an AWD coiler, being LT230, LT77.

Did you know that you have one of the rarest accessories that came with Land Rovers. I have had a few of those cute little two pin plugs, that is attached to your nice vintage spotlamp. I did a 'Name That Part on LRO a few years ago, and NO One had seen one. You should have heard some of the dumb guesses.
How is it that we all tend to think alike? I, too have an '86 911 (Targa), a 1275 Mini CooperS (1974) a '53 MG-TD, a '61 MK2 Jag, 6 land rovers ,and 5 pre '60 British bikes. I lusted after a Moto Guzzi ISDT back in the '60s. They imported 100 to the US. I found one, and it was bought new by a guy in Anchorge, who put it in his basement after riding it 2 weeks, then proceded to die. It looks like something out of a well sealed time capsule

Hah. Yeah I assumed it was quite rare. Pleased to say the spotlight works as good now as it did years ago. I feel very privledged. Its defintly an AWD coiler. Bout to replace the current D90 springs with a brand new set of Old Man Emu coils that the previous owner gave me. Should put it at 2.5" lift rather than the current 2 inches. I will always be a fan of older vintage vehicles. You can never get enough of them!

My other vehicle I've had for 8 years...4 of which was a daily driver...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Impala/imp04.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Impala/imp02.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Craigslist/LB04.jpg

Jim-ME
12-23-2007, 06:12 AM
Nice Rover. Mine had a tweaked rear cross member like yours. I rented a hand pump operated portapower and pushed it back out by putting one end on the tire and the other end on the inside of the rear cross member as far out as possible. It worked slick because it moved back so slowly that I didn't even crack the galvanizing on the frame. I did have to pump the tire up to 100 psi because on the first attempt I almost poped the tire off the rim. Once the frame is back, a block of wood and a 5 lb hand sledge plus patience and you'll be amazed at how much of the body you can straighted.
Jim

NC Rover
12-23-2007, 03:20 PM
Nice Rover. Mine had a tweaked rear cross member like yours. I rented a hand pump operated portapower and pushed it back out by putting one end on the tire and the other end on the inside of the rear cross member as far out as possible. It worked slick because it moved back so slowly that I didn't even crack the galvanizing on the frame. I did have to pump the tire up to 100 psi because on the first attempt I almost poped the tire off the rim. Once the frame is back, a block of wood and a 5 lb hand sledge plus patience and you'll be amazed at how much of the body you can straighted.
Jim

Thank you. That sounds like an interesting method of getting it straight. I figured bending the body back wouldn't be terrible. I'm sure most of it could be straightened out and somewhat back to normal till I can really do a good job on it down the road.

LaneRover
12-24-2007, 07:42 AM
My dad crinkled the back end of a Series III I have and I just used a hydraulic pump jack to re-bend the rear quarter panel. Didn't have to re-do the rear crossmember because that looked like it came off the back of a tugboat. I do agree with everyone else here, just slowly bend the rear crossmember back in place. Even if you do crack the Galvanizing a little bit it is still preferable to trying to replace it. And if you then bend the rear quarter panel back into something resembling its original shape you can drive it like that and then wait for a sale on rear quarter panels. The very rear piece is easily made out of aluminum as it is flat.

Best of luck! It looks like you have a great Rover there!

Brent

PS - those hydraulic pumpjacks don't completely like working sideways. If you try this method and it doesn't seem to be working then just rotate the jack until you get to a position that it works in - which will of course give you no room to pump the jack and will thus take 3 times longer than you thought.

Also, do you know about the 'work hardening' properties of aluminum and how to get rid of them?

NC Rover
12-27-2007, 11:14 PM
My dad crinkled the back end of a Series III I have and I just used a hydraulic pump jack to re-bend the rear quarter panel. Didn't have to re-do the rear crossmember because that looked like it came off the back of a tugboat. I do agree with everyone else here, just slowly bend the rear crossmember back in place. Even if you do crack the Galvanizing a little bit it is still preferable to trying to replace it. And if you then bend the rear quarter panel back into something resembling its original shape you can drive it like that and then wait for a sale on rear quarter panels. The very rear piece is easily made out of aluminum as it is flat.

Best of luck! It looks like you have a great Rover there!

Brent

PS - those hydraulic pumpjacks don't completely like working sideways. If you try this method and it doesn't seem to be working then just rotate the jack until you get to a position that it works in - which will of course give you no room to pump the jack and will thus take 3 times longer than you thought.

Also, do you know about the 'work hardening' properties of aluminum and how to get rid of them?

Thanks for the info brent. I will definitly take these methods in mind.

I'm not sure that I am familiar with "Work hardening" properties of aluminum.

jp-
12-28-2007, 09:06 AM
Hah. Yeah I assumed it was quite rare. Pleased to say the spotlight works as good now as it did years ago. I feel very privledged. Its defintly an AWD coiler. Bout to replace the current D90 springs with a brand new set of Old Man Emu coils that the previous owner gave me. Should put it at 2.5" lift rather than the current 2 inches. I will always be a fan of older vintage vehicles. You can never get enough of them!

My other vehicle I've had for 8 years...4 of which was a daily driver...



NC,

I need some eye bleach. That was awful.

thixon
12-28-2007, 09:21 AM
NC,

I need some eye bleach. That was awful.

No offense NC, but I'm with JP. You must be hung like a moose to have the confidence to drive around in that thing. It aint exactly a chick magnet!

Just bustin your balls mate, I drove a hand-me-down buick regal for years.

Travis

NC Rover
12-28-2007, 10:23 AM
NC,

I need some eye bleach. That was awful.

Hahah. Wait...are we talking about the Impala or the Bronco? The point of the bronco was to fix up, sell, make a profit and buy a rover as rovers are normally a lot more expensive and rare.

Whats funny is that I've had more offers to sell the impala than any other car. Why I don't know. Its currently getting restored. Just had the interior done and about to have it painted. Once thats done, I'm selling it. I already have 3 people who want to buy it!

thixon
12-28-2007, 12:34 PM
I was talking about the impala, but again, just bustin your balls. I'm not surprised by the waiting list to buy on that thing. Anything made in 60's or 70's in the US even remotely hotroddish sells quick.

Leslie
12-28-2007, 01:07 PM
Oh wow, talk about memories.....

My parents had a red '68 Impala 2-door, black vinyl top, that was the car I remember being in as a little kid....







My other vehicle I've had for 8 years...4 of which was a daily driver...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Impala/imp04.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Impala/imp02.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Craigslist/LB04.jpg

LaneRover
12-30-2007, 12:16 PM
Thanks for the info brent. I will definitly take these methods in mind.

I'm not sure that I am familiar with "Work hardening" properties of aluminum.


When bending and banging away on Aluminum it starts to harden and gets brittle. Once this happens you have to re-anneal the aluminum or you will start cracking it. Luckily the process is pretty easy. What I have always heard is to rub some wax (maybe soap would work too) on the painted side of the part you are working on. Then using a propane torch lightly heat the unpainted side of the aluminum. Once the wax has melted the aluminum is re-annealed and can be worked for a while before it starts to harden again.

If you go in too heavy with the torch then you can burn through the aluminum.

Brent