Problems: Diagnosis welcomed (pics)

[NC Rover]

So I'm still new to rovers and I have discovered that I have more hybrid than original series rover. So for that, I apologize if nothing looks familiar.

Either way, I crawled under the Rover after driving it around town a good bit. Noticed theres a good bit of tranny/diff oil sprayed underneath but in a concentrated area surrounding the transfer case?.

Anyone know if this is going to be a huge job to fix or what the actual problem is?

Is there any type of additive that can slow or stop the leak?

Any thoughts are welcomed as well as what you think the problem is so I can head in the right direction to get it fixed. Sorry if these are stupid questions but I'm still learning the ropes. I'll get there one day.

**See Pictures Below

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/xfercase01.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/xfercase02.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/xfercase03.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/xfercase04.jpg

[4flattires]

From what I see, it appears the ujoint had a case of freedom of expression with a recent greasing. The ebrake drum would be pretty moist if it was the rear seal.

Jeff

[EASTTNROVER]

Looks cleaner than mine...:D

[LaneRover]

From what I see, it appears the ujoint had a case of freedom of expression with a recent greasing. The ebrake drum would be pretty moist if it was the rear seal.

Jeff


I concur!

Brent

[friar mike]

I concur!

Brent I will second that!

[greenmeanie]

Lets put it this way. On my '71 nothing will rust from the bellhousing on back. Combined with desert living I still expect a perfect chassis under there next century.

James Bond had to have a man install a system like this on an Aston Martin. Wiser minds know he should have just driven a Series.

Cheers
Gregor

[NC Rover]

Thanks for the input everyone.

I wiped it down and its definitly not the Ubolt. The spray is definitly coming from the small crack between the output shaft and the drum. Its not grease but more of a fine liquid....going to go with diff fluid. As it spins, it slings onto the muffler and burns off.

So you don't think its a seal problem?

[friar mike]

Thanks for the input everyone.

I wiped it down and its definitly not the Ubolt. The spray is definitly coming from the small crack between the output shaft and the drum. Its not grease but more of a fine liquid....going to go with diff fluid. As it spins, it slings onto the muffler and burns off.

So you don't think its a seal problem?
if it looks and smells like gear oil then it must be a rear seal just R&R it not too tuff. you would think it would be running out at the drums edge too.(where the drum meets the backing plate)

[Mercedesrover]

If it was the rear output seal, you'd be leaking between the drum and backer.

Underneath the driveshaft yoke is a nut. Under the nut is a crappy felt and rubber seal. Not a lot of oil gets past the output spline but I'd guess that rear nut is loose, the spline is a little worn and that felt seal is junk. All three things make for a leaky output shaft.


Get yourself a new flet seal, pull the driveshaft and nut and replace. Make sure everything is tight going back together.

jim

[NC Rover]

If it was the rear output seal, you'd be leaking between the drum and backer.

Underneath the driveshaft yoke is a nut. Under the nut is a crappy felt and rubber seal. Not a lot of oil gets past the output spline but I'd guess that rear nut is loose, the spline is a little worn and that felt seal is junk. All three things make for a leaky output shaft.


Get yourself a new flet seal, pull the driveshaft and nut and replace. Make sure everything is tight going back together.

jim

Awesome. Thanks guys for the great info. I will get on this asap. Just need to find the best place to buy the replacement seals, etc first.

[KevinNY]

BTW you have a badly bent tie rod.

[friar mike]

BTW you have a badly bent tie rod.
Man good eye I didn't see that one. as for parts check out our sponser's .

[jp-]

BTW you have a badly bent tie rod.

Jesus, just jesus. Eyes in the back of your head.

[Terrys]

Also looks like your front pinion shaft seal is south for the winter.

[NC Rover]

Also looks like your front pinion shaft seal is south for the winter.

Guys thanks for the heads up. The vehicle sat under a shed for 3 1/2 years without moving.

First thing was to get it up and running good. So I accomplished goal #1....could use a good carb tuning but for the most part, it runs great.

#2 will be replacing those seals and a tie rod. I need to get under there and inspect further.

I know the exhaust manifold has a small leak somewhere but I haven't had a chance to pinpoint it. I believe its coming from the gasket between the bottom of the manifold where it channels into the muffler, etc. That will be #3.

[NC Rover]

Heres a better angle of the leak. I also included a pic of the bent tie rod. Drivers side is fine...passenger side...not so fine. Looks like I'll also need a new seal at the front as well.

Also included a few pics of the side and rear fuel tank. Hope this helps out.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/prob01.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/under09.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/under05.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/Prob02.jpg


From the front....

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/under08.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/under07.jpg


Fuel tanks.....

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/SideFuelTank.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/RearFuelTank.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/RearFuelTank02.jpg

[friar mike]

Man thats clean for a rover. The only way to make it leek free is to buy somthing non English.:D

[jp-]

Your fan belt looks a little loose, your lower radiator hose clamp needs tightening, your driver side tire has a slow leak...

Seriously, though is the front diff supposed to be angled that much. That doesn't look normal.

[friar mike]

Your fan belt looks a little loose, your lower radiator hose clamp needs tightening, your driver side tire has a slow leak...

Seriously, though is the front diff supposed to be angled that much. That doesn't look normal.
Oh now your just gettin knitpicky.

[daveb]

jp-

that is how the coiler axles are set up.

I like the rear tank, looks like a cut and welded 109 SW tank, or perhaps completely custom.

most curious though is the complete lack of a transmission crossmember.

rgrds
dave


Your fan belt looks a little loose, your lower radiator hose clamp needs tightening, your driver side tire has a slow leak...

Seriously, though is the front diff supposed to be angled that much. That doesn't look normal.

[NC Rover]

jp-

that is how the coiler axles are set up.

I like the rear tank, looks like a cut and welded 109 SW tank, or perhaps completely custom.

most curious though is the complete lack of a transmission crossmember.

rgrds
dave

From what the previous owner told me, the whole frame was custom as well as both fuel tanks. Same goes for the smugglers box under the drivers seat.

[LaneRover]

Same goes for the smugglers box under the drivers seat.

Actually that is pretty standard unless you have an ex-military Rover and thus both you and your passenger get to sit on a fuel tank!

Even if stuff isn't as 'custom' as you thought, you still have a great truck and if it isn't custom is easier to fix and or replace if there is a problem.

[NC Rover]

Actually that is pretty standard unless you have an ex-military Rover and thus both you and your passenger get to sit on a fuel tank!

Even if stuff isn't as 'custom' as you thought, you still have a great truck and if it isn't custom is easier to fix and or replace if there is a problem.

Hah thanks. Yeah I really don't care if it was custom or not. However I will say its been pretty difficult learning the ropes of a rover when its not original like most have. Having a hybrid can be pretty confusing especially when you are learning. Above the frame is a Series, below the frame is a D90. So it gets difficult figuring out who to ask questions to!

All apologies to the original series owners if I'm asking questions about something that does not pertain to a series, but do a d90. :)

[Jeff Aronson]

Does your emergency brake work well?

When you have the driveshaft off, you might want to pull the emergency brake drum, too. It's hard to me to believe that you don't have gear oil on the shoes inside.

Jeff

[NC Rover]

Does your emergency brake work well?

When you have the driveshaft off, you might want to pull the emergency brake drum, too. It's hard to me to believe that you don't have gear oil on the shoes inside.

Jeff

The ebrake works pretty good but doesn't seem to be tight or have a lot of tension when pulling up the ebrake handle. I'll have to look into that as well. Another thing for me to be aware of. thanks!

[BirdNerd]

Awesome. Thanks guys for the great info. I will get on this asap. Just need to find the best place to buy the replacement seals, etc first.

ahhh--you're already there.....

Or if you prefer you can go to PePBOys and when the pimple faced kid asks what vehicle you have and you reply Land Rover and he replies "Toyota?"
and You reply "no Land ROVER" and he still looks at you like you with the 30yard stare....

Call RN---when you tell them your problem they will reply "oh ya I saw your post--I got your parts right here"

For the record--I have NO affiliation with RN

At your level of Rover knowledge, these are the guys to help you

BN

[NC Rover]

ahhh--you're already there.....

Or if you prefer you can go to PePBOys and when the pimple faced kid asks what vehicle you have and you reply Land Rover and he replies "Toyota?"
and You reply "no Land ROVER" and he still looks at you like you with the 30yard stare....

Call RN---when you tell them your problem they will reply "oh ya I saw your post--I got your parts right here"

For the record--I have NO affiliation with RN

At your level of Rover knowledge, these are the guys to help you

BN

Nice. Yes I've already experienced the idiots at Autozone. They couldnt' even get me the right size battery when I took the old one in. I like RN. They've helped me out quite a bit so far.

[thixon]

I once convinced a counter guy at Auto Zone that my old sIII truck was a special edition made only for "mutual of omahas wild kingdom." I went on to explain that all rovers that looked like mine were made for the show, and that mine was driven by Marlin Perkins himself. Yeah, enjoy messin with people.