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  • ajones
    Low Range
    • Oct 2007
    • 35

    Oil pressure or lack thereof!

    As I was leaving the store today and pulling in to traffic my '64 IIA died. I could not get it to restart. My oil pressure gauge is registering 0 psi and the oil light on the dash will not go off. Yes, I have oil to the HI mark on the dipstick. Background, several weeks back I noticed I was slightly low on oil, from leaks, burning etc. So, I decided to add a quart of Lucas oil stabilizer, supposedly good stuff. Nah, clogged the oil sensor thus no start. So, after changing the oil in the parking lot of the store where it died, at night, it cranked right up. However, in the process of determining to change the oil I pulled the old sensor messed it up which caused it to leak oil, thus I had to replace it which gets us to the here and now. Recently changed oil, new sensor, plenty of oil in sump, gauge says 0; rover won't start...any ideas? Oh, up until its death in the parking lot it had 20 psi at idle 40 running. Also, I have the spin on oil filter adapter.
    Alex Jones
    Atmore, Al
    '64 SIIA 88
    '79 MB 240D daily driver
    '80 MB 240D donor
    '59 MB 190D "rutso-ration in progress"
    '00 Chevy Silverado 4x4 "rescue vehicle"
    "Glad I ain't haze grey and underway!"
  • friar mike
    1st Gear
    • Nov 2007
    • 116

    #2
    hook up a mechanical gauge and see if its true.
    Onward threw the fog

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    • ajones
      Low Range
      • Oct 2007
      • 35

      #3
      I pulled the sensor sprayed it with wd-40 put it back in and the car cranked right up! Go figure, with new oil the sensor was plugged.
      Alex Jones
      Atmore, Al
      '64 SIIA 88
      '79 MB 240D daily driver
      '80 MB 240D donor
      '59 MB 190D "rutso-ration in progress"
      '00 Chevy Silverado 4x4 "rescue vehicle"
      "Glad I ain't haze grey and underway!"

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      • Richard
        Low Range
        • Nov 2006
        • 25

        #4
        It doesn't really sound like an oil pressure problem. Since you haven't been able to start it, you might not see much pressure from just cranking it over.

        I don't think the sender would be the culprit either. The sender just opens the circuit to the indicater light when there is some reasonable amount of pressure. It wouldn't interfere with it starting.

        Have you tested for the basics? Spark at the plugs, and gas in the carb?

        -Richard

        1967 NADA 109 IIa SW
        1974 88 III

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        • friar mike
          1st Gear
          • Nov 2007
          • 116

          #5
          Originally posted by Richard
          It doesn't really sound like an oil pressure problem. Since you haven't been able to start it, you might not see much pressure from just cranking it over.

          I don't think the sender would be the culprit either. The sender just opens the circuit to the indicater light when there is some reasonable amount of pressure. It wouldn't interfere with it starting.

          Have you tested for the basics? Spark at the plugs, and gas in the carb?

          -Richard
          The only car I ever worked on with the oil pressure hooked to the fuel pump (it has to be a electric Pump) was a chey vega I knocked off the wire to the sender changing oil man that took a while to find. I have never seen a old rover with said system. I had to reread the post I miss that ajones said no start and no oil pressure. it is possible that rover has no power to the gauge on the crank position I have never check on that but alot of cars do it that way. yep if it dosen't start thats another problem.
          Onward threw the fog

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          • Terrys
            Overdrive
            • May 2007
            • 1382

            #6
            Not to sound like a broken record, but as Richard and Mike have alluded, there is NO connection between oil pressure and the rover not starting. I doubt adding the Lucas product clogged your pressure sender, pressure switch, or anything else, but it certainly has nothing to do with your ignition system. Look elsewhere for the problem, such as loose electrical connection, In the ignition circuit, fuel related problems such as bad lift pump, plugged filter, vapor lock etc. Once you find and fix the problem, you'll have whatever oil pressure you had before.

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            • greenmeanie
              Overdrive
              • Oct 2006
              • 1358

              #7
              Land Rover does have a system that does this but as far as I am aware it is only fitted to the 101 to sqaddy proof it. There is an oil pressure switch that controls the power to the electric fuel pump. Lots of people pull em out because it is not a reliable piece of kit.

              The series has a mechanical fuel pump as OEM so I pretty much definite it does not and can not run the same system. The series has an electrical oil pressure that only powers the gauge - the sensor is notoriously unreliable, even new, and notoriously expensive.

              Does the starter turn? If not my bet would be a problem with the ignition switch not getting power through to any switched circuit - no gauge , no starter etc.

              Cheers
              Gregor

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              • singingcamel
                4th Gear
                • Oct 2006
                • 398

                #8
                Originally posted by Terrys
                Not to sound like a broken record, but as Richard and Mike have alluded, there is NO connection between oil pressure and the rover not starting. I doubt adding the Lucas product clogged your pressure sender, pressure switch, or anything else, but it certainly has nothing to do with your ignition system. Look elsewhere for the problem, such as loose electrical connection, In the ignition circuit, fuel related problems such as bad lift pump, plugged filter, vapor lock etc. Once you find and fix the problem, you'll have whatever oil pressure you had before.
                MY Vote is here with Terry !
                If you really want to find out if its your problem
                start the truck and pull the wire off the sending
                unit.
                The no start issue is something else, i would look
                at the wire that goes to your points from the coil.

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                • ajones
                  Low Range
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 35

                  #9
                  Thanks, Guys. So, what I am gathering is that the oil pressure switch only controls the light? i.e. when oil pressure reaches are certain point the sensor trips and cuts off the light? My oil pressure gauge is mech with a oil line running into it. I will start the rover pull the wire and see if it keeps running. I had assumed the oil pressure switch served as an ignition fail safe preventing the truck from starting with insufficent pressure. Guess I was really off base! It was just very weird that it started right up after I pulled that sensor and sprayed it out.
                  Alex Jones
                  Atmore, Al
                  '64 SIIA 88
                  '79 MB 240D daily driver
                  '80 MB 240D donor
                  '59 MB 190D "rutso-ration in progress"
                  '00 Chevy Silverado 4x4 "rescue vehicle"
                  "Glad I ain't haze grey and underway!"

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                  • Jeff Aronson
                    Moderator
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 569

                    #10
                    I'm with everyone who has noted that there's no relationship between not starting and low oil pressure, unless the oil totally fouled up your spark plugs. I think you had two unrelated problems going at the same time.

                    Jeff
                    Jeff Aronson
                    Vinalhaven, ME 04863
                    '66 Series II-A SW 88"
                    '66 Series II-A HT 88"
                    '80 Triumph TR-7 Spider
                    '80 Triumph Spitfire
                    '66 Corvair Monza Coupe
                    http://www.landroverwriter.com

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