in the dark here...

[O'Brien]

so i installed new aux lights on my 109. i purchased the hella 500 amber fogs from our hosts:thumb-up:

i've got them installed an wired per the instructions, but i can't seem to get them working. also, i would be more than happy to post pictures, but i can't find my sodding usb cable for my camera. i'll do my best to describe.

once again, i've installed per the instructions. i want the lights to work independantly from the headlights.

lights are on the bumper, they are both grounded to the bumper.
ran the black wires from the lights to the little fuse box supplied w/the kit.
red wire to the positive battery terminal.
yellow wire to the switch supplied with the kit.
blue wire grounding the little black fuse box.
switch is grounded the the dash.
ran third wire out of the switch back to my fuses.
this wire is connected to, hmm can't recall which line i connected it to, but i tried several and none worked. i hooked it to things i know have power.

i have power at the switch. it lights up, but the lights don't come on. not only do i really want to be able to use my lights, but im getting really tired of constantly having to disconnect the battery in my seatbox to see if it works this time. im not too experienced with electricity, so please help me out friends!

also, if you are near L.A. i will buy you copious amounts of pints if you want to hang out and talk rovers:cheers:

[badvibes]

Do you have one of those "light up" pencil type testers? Sorry I don't know the real name. If you do check the power lead into the light and see if you have power from the switch to the light. If you do I'm guessing it's a bad/poor ground at the light. I had a very similar thing and had to make sure I had a good contact from the light housing to the bumper. Might be a really simple fix.

Jeff

[KingSlug]

Are you off Wed/Thurs? I could drive up and help you out.

Jared

[Jim-ME]

I went through the same problems putting the exact same lights on my son's Jeep. The little black box is a relay not a fuse box. It too needs to be grounded. I believe that I actually grounded it to the mounting screw of the relay. You also need to run power thru the switch to get it to turn on the relay. I believe I tapped off the fuse box behind the glove box of the Jeep. Since his was a lit switch it needed to be grounded too. Buy a test lamp and read the directions so that you understand where the power is going to and comming from. The directions suck especially if you don't want to have them tied into the factory wiring. Have fun. They are great lights once you get them working.
Jim

[TSR53]

Yes, the Hella instructions and wiring diagram are for standard legal requirements when you toggle on your high beams. I think just modify the source of 12v+ that feeds the switch to have them toggle on individually.

FYI...

Hella test light
http://www.roversnorth.com/store/images/Product/large/87275.jpg (http://www.roversnorth.com/store/p-8434-hella-test-lamp-6-24-volt.aspx)

[O'Brien]

so to get everything set up on it's own (without having to use other lights) i probably need an always hot wire to the switch correct? should i use a wire similar to the red wire supplied with the kit, and tap it directly to the positive on the battery? is this too much power directly to my switch? (switch IS grounded)

thanks for your help and patience friends!

[TSR53]

so to get everything set up on it's own (without having to use other lights) i probably need an always hot wire to the switch correct? should i use a wire similar to the red wire supplied with the kit, and tap it directly to the positive on the battery? is this too much power directly to my switch? (switch IS grounded)

thanks for your help and patience friends!
- You will want the relay to take all load that the lights draw.
- Use the switch to toggle the relay on and off.

I'll see if I can get you a revised wiring diagram for the relay.

[TSR53]

Hella 500 Wiring Instructions PDF download (http://www.hella.com/produktion/HellaUSA/WebSite/MiscContent/Download/Drivers/Lighting/500MountingInstructionsfinal.pdf)

I know that you already have these instructions. I just posted so we can discuss. Looking at the "Standard Wiring Diagram" below, you will see that the source of 12v+ that toggles the relay is coming from the 12v+ headlamp. If you want the Hella 500 lights to come on without your headlights on (check your local laws first), the 12v+ source will have to be a different location.
http://www.roversnorth.com/web/downloads/instructions/hella/hella-500-wiring-diagram.jpg

[LaneRover]

also, if you are near L.A. i will buy you copious amounts of pints if you want to hang out and talk rovers:cheers:

I head up to LA for work quite often - less often when the writers are striking - but next time I head up I'll let you know!

Brent

[O'Brien]

If you want the Hella 500 lights to come on without your headlights on (check your local laws first), the 12v+ source will have to be a different location.

thompson -

this is what i want to do. I have mine wired as per the 'standard' wire diagram. I want to know where i should connect my 12v+ wire coming from the switch aside from the headlights. what other common place could i connect to that would provide me a constant powersource?

[TSR53]

thompson -

this is what i want to do. I have mine wired as per the 'standard' wire diagram. I want to know where i should connect my 12v+ wire coming from the switch aside from the headlights. what other common place could i connect to that would provide me a constant powersource?

I quickly checked with Arthur our Sales Manager and he says, "The power source for the switch should be from a switched source. I would probably take it from the ignition coil, the starter solenoid or directly from the switched fuse on the fuse box.

NOTE: You should also make sure it's not required by state law that the lights need to be tied into the main headlamp switch (like it is in Vermont)."

Also, if I were wiring aux. lights on a Series Land Rover vehicle, I would probably ground the lights directly to the battery rather than the bumper.

Series Land Rover 2.6 neg. ground wiring diagram
Download high-resolution PDF file (720KB) (http://www.roversnorth.com/store/images/product/large/LR-page84.pdf)
http://www.roversnorth.com/store/images/product/large/LR-page84.1.jpg

[S11A]

I would connect the relay to a switched source (i.e.- the light switch side of the relay), as opposed to running a lot of "new" current through the ignition switch or ammeter. Those stock pieces might not like a lot of extra current...

The following diagram is a good starting point:

http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi/headlight-simple.htm