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Bertha
03-01-2008, 01:36 PM
I found this ad amusing from one of the self -proclaimed "great" Land Rover restorers. Funny how they can claim to notice 30 subtle but substantial faults with this Rover from 10 pictures. Which is it sublte or substantial. He also claims that it would take him another 15-25k to restore the truck properly? What could you possibly purchase for that truck to get to that amount. I think this advertising as to why not to go to him. If he is such an expert, what is with the 10k discrepency. If you bought an entire new drivetrain you could not spend that amount.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Land-Rover-series-I-II-IIa-III-appraisal_W0QQitemZ230219988978QQihZ013QQcategoryZ 50341QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

junkyddog11
03-01-2008, 04:15 PM
I only had to look at one picture to tell that it was missing a place to hang the liscense plate (like the whole frigging body):eek:

PH4
03-01-2008, 05:37 PM
Has anyone actually read the Prospective book? BNW is expensive and I know people have had issues with it but the waxoxyl type product and literature I received from them was top notch. He is knowledgable but unaffordable, at least for me.

SalemRover
03-01-2008, 06:25 PM
I wish he would define the term "proper". Like the upgraded exhaust manifold and carb. Better replace that quick with a solex and stock muffler. The rad fan is not vintage correct color, engine block color, oil stains on the driveway are too far apart indicating synthetic heresy and the use of a throttle cable is pure blasphemy. If it were going to a museum then the hair across his derriere might be justified. Otherwise, well he should go back to shining his awards.

-Jason

Eric W S
03-01-2008, 07:08 PM
Has anyone actually read the Prospective book? BNW is expensive and I know people have had issues with it but the waxoxyl type product and literature I received from them was top notch. He is knowledgable but unaffordable, at least for me.

Yes. I have read the book. There is some good stuff on the how to survey a truck. But a series truck is not unlike any other used car. So, you can get the gist of it by googling how to buy a used car as well.

I'll save you 40 bucks. 1. Survey the car and drive it. 2. Use the green bible or hire a specialist 3. only use genuine parts 4. Never modify the truck.

The one point I really hate about it is that the language is similar to that ad. It discounts that other parts may be superior or that OEM parts supplied to Land Rover can be just as good as LR.

xsbowes
03-01-2008, 11:05 PM
If you live in the northwest and don't like paying a lot for shipping, his parts prices can be reasonable if you negotiate. Charles hooked me up with a pair of new swivel balls by going a few bucks under the lowest price I could get a quote for. The only thing I didn't like was that he doesn't like to take credit/debit cards but prefers check or MO. His "restored" vehicle prices are a little out of my league.

Stacy
72 SIII LTWT
http://www.picturetrail.com/xsbowes

leafsprung
03-02-2008, 12:12 AM
Charles has far more rover parts than friends/repeat customers

Erin
03-02-2008, 03:00 AM
Um... Charles is a...Cornflake any one?? Richard Creed?

junkyddog11
03-02-2008, 06:42 AM
Charles has far more rover parts than friends/repeat customers

That about covers it. Well said Ike (as usual)

Terrys
03-02-2008, 09:25 AM
The ad certainly is boastful, and it reminds me of another person, way up in the northeast, who promotes himself as well as P T Barnum. I suppose there is something to be said for believing you are that great, in order for others to believe it also.
That being said, we're not talking Louis XVI funriture restorations, were talking basic old British trucks. I can't imagine spending (a penny more than) $18k on an 88, especially if someone had convinced me I needed to give them that much again to make it right. I'd far prefer to find a good, solid truck for $3-5K and have at it. I've been playing with these for over 30 years, and will doubtless continue to, but I have yet to be convinced they need some place in the Lovre, or Smithsonian

TedW
03-02-2008, 11:56 AM
You can buy it in cans at many Ace Hardware stores or in bulk at industrial supply houses.
I bought it from him back in the early '90's and then figured out what the stuff was. I then bought it locally a few times but eventually switched to real Waxoyl - couldn't take the smell of the LPS3 after a while (too sicky-sweet). It does work extremely well, however (IMO) and creeps everywhere you put it.

GrFa
03-02-2008, 08:17 PM
I found this ad amusing from one of the self -proclaimed "great" Land Rover restorers. Funny how they can claim to notice 30 subtle but substantial faults with this Rover from 10 pictures. Which is it sublte or substantial. He also claims that it would take him another 15-25k to restore the truck properly? What could you possibly purchase for that truck to get to that amount. I think this advertising as to why not to go to him. If he is such an expert, what is with the 10k discrepency. If you bought an entire new drivetrain you could not spend that amount.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Land-Rover-series-I-II-IIa-III-appraisal_W0QQitemZ230219988978QQihZ013QQcategoryZ 50341QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Looks like someone was bored at work yesterday surfing ebay...I also agree I cannot imagine where 15-25k would come from. I will definitely not be using any of his appraisal services!

thixon
03-03-2008, 08:28 AM
I love brit cars (as many of you do), and have had a bunch of 'em. This kinda guy isn't uncommon. There are a ton in the brit car world. Every mark has its pompass know-it-all. If any of you guys want a jag, MG, or Triumph, I'll tell you who to steer clear of!

If he's able to sell a "restored" series to some bone head for as much as an e-type, then good for him! Hopefully it props up the value of our trucks.

yorker
03-03-2008, 08:42 AM
You can buy it in cans at many Ace Hardware stores or in bulk at industrial supply houses.
I bought it from him back in the early '90's and then figured out what the stuff was. I then bought it locally a few times but eventually switched to real Waxoyl - couldn't take the smell of the LPS3 after a while (too sicky-sweet). It does work extremely well, however (IMO) and creeps everywhere you put it.

Have you tried Dinitrol AV-8 (http://www.virginia.edu/cese/research/CPC%20talk%20at%20AA2002.PDF), 15 or 30? I've tried AV-15 and it has worked pretty well. It doesn't really smell or remain sticky like LPS-3. It is availiable in a lot of different places and no need to deal with cornflakes...