Best Jerry Cans?

[PH4]

Anyone have a reccomendation for a jerry can and jerry can holder? Will be mounted in bed of 109 regular. Many different ones out there but want the best. For petrol.

[Eric W S]

Wedco Cans. Never had a single problem with them.

https://www.expeditionexchange.com/wedco/

[Mercedesrover]

Pretty hard to beat the NATO cans. Tough, proven and cheap to buy. Usually under $15.00.

http://west.loadup.com/images/large/1491.jpg

[PH4]

Where do you find NATO cans for under $15? Thanks for your help.

[PH4]

Also any opinions/experience as to best jerry can mounts?

[Mercedesrover]

Sportsman's Guide has them for $15.00

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=409045

As for a mount, I made my own. Not sure what others do.

[NC Rover]

Also any opinions/experience as to best jerry can mounts?

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http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/Fuel03.jpg

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[PH4]

NCROVER, what type of front seats are those in your Series?

[Daurie]

I bought Scepter cans. 3 fuel and one water. I love em. As far as mounting goes I have a Brownchurch rack with a place for four. Now that I have my soft top on I'm looking for other options.

http://www.sceptermilitary.com/fuel_containers/

[NC Rover]

NCROVER, what type of front seats are those in your Series?

D90 seats. Here's a few pics:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/IMG_7190.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/W8kbrder/Land%20Rover/IMG_0641.jpg

[yorker]

I've got a bunch of Scepter cans and the NATO/German style metal cans. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. For the German style metal cans you don't need a donkey dick which is handy- you can pour directly from the can's spout into the gas fill on the series. The Scepter cans require a separate spout (donkey dick), however they can be used with various US Army screw in adapters which can be handy- and they don't dent or rust and are more pleasant to handle in cold weather.

The old metal US WWII to 1990's cans are lousy as compared to those above- unless that is all you can get.

There are tons of sources for surplus cans online however if you live in a CARB state you are screwed and can only be sold CARB compliant cans which all suck :mad: ... YMMV


Coleman's Surplus is a good source forhttp://cgi.ebay.com/GERRY-CAN-NATO-20-LITER-GAS-CAN_W0QQitemZ370035849242QQihZ024QQcategoryZ588QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem the cans:

[yorker]

some other sources:


http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=409045

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=356176

http://www.garrettwade.com/jump.jsp?itemID=106309&itemType=PRODUCT

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ZAA075-20712-1395.html

These Danish ones are very nice:http://www.e-gunparts.com/images/adz/979600.jpg
http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=979600&chrSuperSKU=&MC=

they also have racks:
http://www.e-gunparts.com/images/adz/979610.jpg

[greenmeanie]

Today's useless bit of trivia.
Th e Germans produced the original design for the standard nato or Jerry can. The British, who had been using a rather useless design called a 4 gallon flimsy, rather liked the ones they captured. We went on to copy the design and actually produced more during WWII than the Germans.

Now back to your regulart reporting.

Cheers
Gregor

[TeriAnn]

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2 questions:

What's the engine/gearbox/transfercase?

Do you ever wade this thing? It wouldn't take much of a water crossing to put those doors speakers underwater.

Oh & there are other jerry cans & holders here"

http://www.landroverparts.us/landroverparts/NATOjerryCans.html

[NC Rover]

2 questions:

What's the engine/gearbox/transfercase?

Do you ever wade this thing? It wouldn't take much of a water crossing to put those doors speakers underwater.

Oh & there are other jerry cans & holders here"

http://www.landroverparts.us/landroverparts/NATOjerryCans.html

I ordered two jerry cans off of the sportsman website. Shipped pretty quickly, however they came with a bit of Kerosene still in them. Whats the best way to flush/clean them in order to use gasoline?

As far as the engine, etc...its a 2.5L eurospec w/ LT77 tranny with LT230 transfer case. D90 axles/hubs. 3" lift via Old Man Emu coils.

Have not done any water crossings as of yet. I'm about to redo the doors. the speakers will be relocated. One of the many projects in line to be accomplished by summer. :)

[PH4]

NC Rover, how did you get your hands on a 2.5 Eurospec and can you tell a difference from the 2.25l?

[yorker]

I ordered two jerry cans off of the sportsman website. Shipped pretty quickly, however they came with a bit of Kerosene still in them. Whats the best way to flush/clean them in order to use gasoline?


Just put the gas in and use them- the diesel or kerosene won't bother anything.:thumb-up: Fuel injector and carb cleaners like STP usually have some kerosene in them.

[yorker]

Today's useless bit of trivia.
Th e Germans produced the original design for the standard nato or Jerry can. The British, who had been using a rather useless design called a 4 gallon flimsy, rather liked the ones they captured. We went on to copy the design and actually produced more during WWII than the Germans.



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[luckyjoe]

Wow, I just noticed NJ is now CARB-complant :mad:

Good thing I already have a few surplus and Wedco cans...

Regards,

[yorker]

Wow, I just noticed NJ is now CARB-complant :mad:

Good thing I already have a few surplus and Wedco cans...

Regards,


That is a lot of fun isn't it? I have to buy cans via Ebay because no one will sell the non CARB compliant ones to NY- I can't even get spouts sent here from most of them- luckily I don't need a spout but still it pisses me off.

Are you anywhere near Philly? I had a friend down there who couldn't even get non CARB compliant cans filled at gas stations in Jersey.

[LaneRover]

Though most troops loved the Jerry Cans they were not universally loved by the Long Range Desert Patrol folks. In the past they had used the original British Tins known as 'flimsies'. The nice thing about those was although they tended to leak the tin can was surrounded by a bit of wood and they then had wood for a fire and the flimsies were considered to be disposable, when they were empty they were thrown over the side/buried or made into other things like stoves. By doing this they had more room in the vehicles as the mission went on.

Since the Jerry cans were something that wasn't considered to be disposable they had to bring all of them back - thus no extra room during the mission. Also since the Jerry Cans were much sturdier they didn't need a wooden protective crate - so no fire wood!

While the British were using Flimsies a loss rate of 30% was considered normal!!

Brent

[yorker]

If you really want to talk Jerry Cans there is a forum dedicated to them here, they can be fun to collect- a lot of history is behind them!

http://www.g503.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=37

[greenmeanie]

Though most troops loved the Jerry Cans they were not universally loved by the Long Range Desert Patrol folks. The nice thing about those was although they tended to leak the tin can was surrounded by a bit of wood and they then had wood for a fire

Brent

Now for a group of men who's job was to swan around behind enemy lines doing reconnaisance and road watches in a rather subtle and inconspicuous manner I really want to know why they would be lighting fires? The desert stove I can understand but a fire?

It is also interesting that the LRDG generally preferred their 2 wheel drive Chevy and Ford trucks to the 4X4 CMP 60's etc. It was felt that the extra weight ofthe 4X4 tended to make these trucks break through the crust and sink more often and they also consumed more fuel than a 2X4. They were an interesting bunch.

Cheers
Gregor

[yorker]

http://www.qmfound.com/fuel_korea.jpg


This is a pretty interesting article too:
http://www.qmfound.com/petroleum_containers_korea.htm


CONTAINER COST AND MORTALITY

The initial cost of the container per gallon of fuel is greater when using a 5-gallon can. Current container prices are $7.35 per 55-gallon drum and $2.20 per 5-gallon can. An investment of $24.20 in cans is thus required to equal the volume of an $7.35 drum. Statistics reveal that of the 4,674, 818 drums shipped to Korea, 27.2 per cent of the total have been lost. Of 941,645 5-gallon cans shipped to Korea, 53.6 per cent have been removed from the supply channels. This actual experience in substantiated by published Quartermaster monthly replacement factors of .093 for 55-gallon drums and .150 for 5-gallon cans. It is evident that in addition to requiring a larger initial investment, the 5-gallon container is more expensive as a result of the greater percentage lost.

This high rate of loss of 5-gallon cans appears to be in line with previous experience in Europe, during WW II, where the mortality was 70 per cent in the first 9 months on the Continent. During the period 6 June 1944 to 28 February 1945, a total of 32 million cans, exclusive of T/O & E (Table of Organization and Equipment) allowances, were shipped to the continent. However, not all of those cans were in the possession of the Army as the native population found them very useful, even for handling water. In an all out inventory on 28 February 1945, only 9 million cans could be accounted for.

[NC Rover]

NC Rover, how did you get your hands on a 2.5 Eurospec and can you tell a difference from the 2.25l?

The previous owner had a lot of items shipped overseas from England to California. According to him, that was one of the items he brought over.

[NC Rover]

Just put the gas in and use them- the diesel or kerosene won't bother anything.:thumb-up: Fuel injector and carb cleaners like STP usually have some kerosene in them.

Thanks! I appreciate the info.

That article about the Jerry Cans was pretty cool!

[LaneRover]

Now for a group of men who's job was to swan around behind enemy lines doing reconnaisance and road watches in a rather subtle and inconspicuous manner I really want to know why they would be lighting fires? The desert stove I can understand but a fire?

It is also interesting that the LRDG generally preferred their 2 wheel drive Chevy and Ford trucks to the 4X4 CMP 60's etc. It was felt that the extra weight ofthe 4X4 tended to make these trucks break through the crust and sink more often and they also consumed more fuel than a 2X4. They were an interesting bunch.

Cheers
Gregor


Many times they would light a fire long before they were near the enemy. They would also light a fire when away from their vehicles because only the local Arabs did that. Because the Germans would then think that they were Arabs because no Combatant would be stupid enough to give away their position with a fire. The Germans tended to do things by the book and figured that everyone else did too!

They did prefer the 2 wheel drive trucks. More weight, more to go wrong and used more gas.