SIIA Wheel Spacers

[gallf1]

Hi:
Does anyone know where in the US to purchase reasonable cost wheel spacers? I have a 1971 SIIA 109 with Salisbury axles front and rear running the NATO rims with 9.00 x 16lt (36.3" diameter) tires.

One supplier back East has them listed for over $600...:eek:

Would the ones that our host sells fit on my Salisbury's?
Thx!!

[leafsprung]

http://www.wheelspacer.com/home.asp


The salsbury is the same from the axle housing flange out. There is nothing special about them.

[greenmeanie]

The inevitable question is how much spacing do you want?

If you are only looking for 1/4 to 3/8" or so to cut up an old set of brake drums so you just have the flat center disk that fits your bolt pattern. You'll need to add longer wheel studs to make that work. A bit more machining and you can create them out of plate from you local metal suppliers.

If you are looking at 1" or so yo uare getting into more specialist territory.

Cheers
Gregor

[gallf1]

Thx guys....I am looking for at least 1" thick spacers, so I will try the link you provided. I like the fact that he uses steel instead of aluminum.:thumb-up:

[s3landy]

Have you considered having the rim centres reversed. I did this on my old Series 3 and gained about 1.5 " of offset.


Mike

[Tim Smith]

Have you considered having the rim centres reversed. I did this on my old Series 3 and gained about 1.5 " of offset.


Mike
Who did this for you? I was thinking that this was becoming a lost art for rover wheels.

[s3landy]

I took the rims to a rim repair shop and they straightened and reversed them for about $60.00 each. That was a few years ago though.

Mike

[leafsprung]

whats lost about it. You can do it yourself if you are careful

[Tim Smith]

whats lost about it. You can do it yourself if you are careful
Maybe you could do it. :p I don't trust my own welding skills nearly enough to attempt something like this. Although, like anything else, I'm willing to give it a try.

I haven't been able to find a wheel repair shop that will deal with steel wheels. I don't know if it's related, but it's also "illegal" for a shop to repair your frame in CT. I'm not sure exactly what the reasoning is or the extent of illegal it is but I know for a fact that no shop will touch a frame with a 10 foot pole.

Any way, lost art... more like "not allowed to" art. But please someone prove me wrong. :confused:

[LaneRover]

I don't know if it's related, but it's also "illegal" for a shop to repair your frame in CT. I'm not sure exactly what the reasoning is or the extent of illegal it is but I know for a fact that no shop will touch a frame with a 10 foot pole.:

I think that most shops just don't want to deal with crawling under an oily old vehicle and tell people it is illegal.

[SafeAirOne]

I think that most shops just don't want to deal with crawling under an oily old vehicle and tell people it is illegal.

Just a guess here, but modern vehicles have failure points specifically engineered into the chassis. These "crumple zones" are difficult to impossible to repair in vehicles that are involved in otherwise repairable accidents. Perhaps "Illegal" is an accurate description for unqualified shops in CT...

Of course we don't have to worry about this; Our series rovers are of 2 types--Ones where the ENTIRE rusted chassis is a crumple zone and ones where the other guy's car is the crumple zone. Check the condition of the inside of your chassis to determine which you have (mine's halfway between type 1 and 2). :p

[Tim Smith]

Illegal.

I've heard it from more than one welding shop and heard it from more than one Rover owner in CT. I believe the rover owners either learned to weld themselves, crossed the border to get it done or just swapped out for a new frame.

I'm sure it all has something to do with liability. I guess it's a sign of the times. :mad:

[Mercedesrover]

I don't know if it's related, but it's also "illegal" for a shop to repair your frame in CT.

Oh no! I'm going to jail!! :)

I've been welding frames for 25 years and they haven't come after me yet. Many, many manufacturers sell front frame rail sections for a full frame that has a crumple zone. Ford expecially has been doing this for years and years. Wack up the front of your F150, buy the first 18" of the rail from Ford and weld it back on.

If shops are telling you that welding your Rover frame is illegal, I'll bet they just don't want to well your Rover frame.

[Tim Smith]

Oh no! I'm going to jail!! :)

I've been welding frames for 25 years and they haven't come after me yet. Many, many manufacturers sell front frame rail sections for a full frame that has a crumple zone. Ford expecially has been doing this for years and years. Wack up the front of your F150, buy the first 18" of the rail from Ford and weld it back on.

If shops are telling you that welding your Rover frame is illegal, I'll bet they just don't want to well your Rover frame.
Jim's been proving me wrong more times than not lately. It's a good thing too because otherwise I might start to get cynical and start prefacing all my statements with "In the good old days..." ;)

Of which I have no clue if they were any good'er. :sly:

[lrdukdog]

:confused: Would these fit a series truck>
http://www.landroverparts.us/LandRoverSpecial.html
Sorry RN but this could help this chap.
Jim Wolf
Elvenwood Kennel

[I Leak Oil]

Those wouldn't fit without modification. Notice the hub has clearance for 5 flange bolts, the series rover has 6. Would be easy enough to do/have done but why not just buy the right part to begin with?
Jason T.

[Rineheitzgabot]

Not sure I understand WHY Galf wants the wheels spaced. Clearance, appearance, what exactly?

[Tim Smith]

Not sure I understand WHY Galf wants the wheels spaced. Clearance, appearance, what exactly?The further apart your wheels get from the frame rails, the tighter you can adjust your steering. Then maybe, just maybe, you can make a U-turn without stopping traffic for a 100 point turn.

Helps handling a bit and looks kewl too. But that last one is an opinion.

Cheers,
Tim

[Rineheitzgabot]

Assuming that TimSmith is Galf's spokesman, okay then.

The reason I ask, is that I have some 15 rims that are Dick Cepek, reversed, they are wider than normal, AND offset to the outboard side of the frame rails. They have this part number stamped in them: 272309

I want to get rid of them, if anyone is interested. They have 31 10.50R15's on them with 95% tread. If you are interested, I will email pics, let me know.

[greenmeanie]

Galf has an interesting modified truck that's running 9X16's. THe increase in diameter kills your turning circle - hence the spacers.

Galf - did you ever fit that sals up front?

Cheers
Gregor

[daveb]

272309 is an early 16" steel rim for the 109.


Assuming that TimSmith is Galf's spokesman, okay then.

The reason I ask, is that I have some 15 rims that are Dick Cepek, reversed, they are wider than normal, AND offset to the outboard side of the frame rails. They have this part number stamped in them: 272309

I want to get rid of them, if anyone is interested. They have 31 10.50R15's on them with 95% tread. If you are interested, I will email pics, let me know.

[lrdukdog]

Those wouldn't fit without modification. Notice the hub has clearance for 5 flange bolts, the series rover has 6. Would be easy enough to do/have done but why not just buy the right part to begin with?
Jason T.

I have Discovery steel wheels on my 1966 109 SW. If these will fit the Disco. series I then they should fit a series truck. It maybe cheaper to get the Wolf wheels or maybe not.
Jim Wolf
Elvenwood Kennel

[I Leak Oil]

I have Discovery steel wheels on my 1966 109 SW. If these will fit the Disco. series I then they should fit a series truck. It maybe cheaper to get the Wolf wheels or maybe not.
Jim Wolf
Elvenwood Kennel

Jim, I agree that steel disco I wheels fit a series just fine but I'm referring to the wheel spacers you posted the link to. Check out the machined portion that fit's over the hub. It has 5 cutouts for the axle drive flange where a series truck has a 6 bolt pattern on the drive flange. These won't fit without being modified.
Jason T.

[Rineheitzgabot]

272309 is an early 16" steel rim for the 109.

You are quite correct about the part number. I do not know the era, but there was a time when Dick Cepek and others would take the 16" rim, and mount it on a 15", deep dish ring, as an aftermarket thing. I believe that the ring got shrunk down because of the waste from removing it from the 16" ring.

The rims and tires that I have for sale are 15's, if anyone is interested.

[Tim Smith]

Assuming that TimSmith is Galf's spokesman, okay then...I can't begin to tell you how much Galf would not want me as a spokes person. :p

Didn't mean to sound like that

...The reason I ask, is that I have some 15 rims that are Dick Cepek, reversed, they are wider than normal, AND offset to the outboard side of the frame rails. They have this part number stamped in them: 272309

I want to get rid of them, if anyone is interested. They have 31 10.50R15's on them with 95% tread. If you are interested, I will email pics, let me know.If this were a few months ago, I would have been all over those wheels! Oh well.

[Rineheitzgabot]

I'll make you a deal! :)

[Tim Smith]

I'd love to but I'm out of cash! Seriously about a month ago I was on a spending spree with my rover and now I've got to pay the piper.
:(

Cheers.

[Rineheitzgabot]

I'm not in a hurry, if you change your mind, let me know.