More Pictures of the New Gray Rover (my new project)

[Bostonian1976]

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[TeriAnn]

You are a braver person than I Gunga Dien :eek:

[yorker]

I really don't think it is that bad for one from the north east. I've seen quite a few people start with projects that are in a worse state. The chassis is shot but when I go looking for LRs I factor that into my price- every truck I've found would require a new chassis. When he is done he'll have a fair chunk of $ in it as well as time but he'll be intimately familiar with every aspect of its build. I really don't think it will be a bad project. A labor of love- sure! But an rewarding one.

What is the alternative- part it out? I think that would be a shame for one as complete and unmolested as this.:thumb-up:

[Leslie]

The upper portion is in better shape than mine when I began. Your chassis and bulkhead, tho', are going to be replaced. They look bad, but since you know you're going to be replacing them from the outset, then you can disregard those and concentrate on the rest of it, which is complete.

Get a chassis, some new springs and shocks. Get the body off the old, pull the driveline bits, tackle the axles and get them under the new chassis so it's rolling, and get the rest of the driveline in place while the body isn't in the way. Run your wiring and brake-lines then, too. Get the rear tub ready and get it into place. By then, you should have located a replacement bulkhead, and can get it in. At that point, you'll be into all the little fiddlin' nigglin' things... The breakfast and wings and doors almost pop right on, don't worry about them, it's all the other little things that will take up time.

Of course, once you've got the bulkhead off, you could repair it, but looking at the photos, I would think you'd be best served locating a replacement. IMHO, FWIW....

Enjoy!

[yorker]

The biggest thing I'd be worried about on the Bulkhead is the drip rail where the hood meets it- it looks like this truck might have been parked where crap collected and rusted it there thanks to leaves or other bits of moisture absorbing crap. My trucks were A-OK in that area because they were parked for years out in the open. The other rust inside looks like scaly superficial rust- remember flash photography brings out every blemish no matter how small and makes it look like hell.

The door posts will likely need new bottoms and the footwells need replacing but that is pretty much SOP...

[Bostonian1976]

I'll certainly be familiar with the truck when I'm done...that's for sure!! :)

The more I looked it over, the more I realized that the outside probably received a bad repaint at some point a long time ago. The wheels are gray but so are bits of the tires :) The gas cap is also painted over in gray. The inside, however....definitely does not look repainted so I think the gray is original....someone just decided to do a semi-sloppy job on the outside probably when the truck was getting a little long in the tooth in their eyes. At least they didn't paint the galvi!

The best part of all those pictures? Look at the inspection sticker in the windshield on the first shot............1980!!:eek::eek:

[Jim-ME]

Boy that brings back memories. Except for the color that looks (minus the rust) exactly like my first one. I am somewhat jealous but you do have your hands full. Best of luck and keep us posted on the progress.
Jim

[yorker]

Do you have any history on it? I noticed it hasn't been on the road since 1980 when i looked at the pics. Wonder what happened? something catastrophic?

My IIa hadn't been on the road since ~1985 when i got it. The PO said he started it one day and it "just quit"

Once I got it home and tried to start it I found out the engine would turn over but the distributor wouldn't turn. Upon further investigation I discovered the pad that the timing belt rides on had come loose and become lodged int he camshaft gear and then broken the end off the camshaft. So that was the end of that!

[Bostonian1976]

yikes! Hopefully something like that is not the case here. No history on it other than the fact that it sat in PA for a long, long time...I actually bought it for parts for 600 bucks, but upon closer inspection realized that it would be worth salvaging. I'm going to try to start it next weekend and see how it goes. It'll be amazing if it starts! Can't imagine the clanging and rust that will come out of the tailpipe!

[yorker]

You might be surprised! I've started up quite a few engines that were sitting for decades and as long as they aren't truly set up they've all started with just a little has poured down the carby.

$600 was a good price for it. IMHO. A good deal because it doesn't have the typically crunched fenders and PO bodge jobs. The only thing I see that looks changed is the starter button.

I know of 2 or 3 similar trucks in my area, your post has given me some motivation- I'm going on a mission this spring to buy them.

[jp-]

yikes! Hopefully something like that is not the case here. No history on it other than the fact that it was parked on a farm in rural PA for a long, long time...I actually bought it for parts for 600 bucks, but upon closer inspection realized that it would be worth salvaging. I'm going to try to start it next weekend and see how it goes. It'll be amazing if it starts! Can't imagine the clanging and rust that will come out of the tailpipe!

Bostonian,

I got my 88" in PA (a 2000 mile drive for me). Pulled it back with a Saturn SL2 (have pictures to prove it). Mine was in far worse shape, but I couldn't bear to part it. Got it for $450 (The transmission was in three pieces in the back, along with the cylinder head.)

And by the way, that looks like a faded Marine Blue, not gray. My Rover is gray.

I've got some photos. I hope they go through. Enjoy.

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[Leslie]

And by the way, that looks like a faded Marine Blue, not gray. My Rover is gray.



I agree that a really faded-out marine blue is similar in appearance, once you get into the interior, you wouldn't see as much fading, and it's definitely gray on the inside, not blue.

[Bostonian1976]

yeah that's why I took a few pictures of under the seat (hard to tell from the shot but it's the one with the broken plexiglass-looking piece on the right). That is the original paint, and it looks very well preserved (and very gray).

[Bostonian1976]

Bostonian,

I got my 88" in PA (a 2000 mile drive for me). Pulled it back with a Saturn SL2 (have pictures to prove it). Mine was in far worse shape, but I couldn't bear to part it. Got it for $450 (The transmission was in three pieces in the back, along with the cylinder head.)

And by the way, that looks like a faded Marine Blue, not gray. My Rover is gray.

I've got some photos. I hope they go through. Enjoy.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/818/rover01gy2.jpg

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5559/rover02hq8.jpg

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1823/rover03kk0.jpg

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6521/rover04wj4.jpg

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/791/rover05pm4.jpg

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/598/rover06es5.jpg

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7894/rover07dj7.jpg

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/8031/rover08jm4.jpg

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/8753/rover09gs6.jpg

thanks a lot for posting this!! I can't believe you pulled it back with an SL2...that's unreal. Seems like a lot of Rover owners have Saturns, by the way....I have an SL2 too....since I live in the city, it's the perfect city car. I have an FJ Cruiser too...but that hides up north where it doesn't get destroyed by city folk ;) I have too many cars.....but it's kind of an addiction :)

The gray Rover looks fantastic, and makes me wonder if I should repaint mine. I was just thinking of cleaning it up for that old look, but the gray looks so good I'm beginning to wonder...

[galen216]

Where in Pa. did you find it?

[Bostonian1976]

Where in Pa. did you find it?

well, I actually got it from a guy in Paxton, Mass who had brought it up with the intention of restoring it last December, but soon lost interest so he was just trying to get rid of it. We bought it for parts (it was on Ebay with no bids!), noting the nice tailgate and perfectly straight body (recently been noticing some bondo here and there on the limestone '67 that I own).

Anyway...he bought it from some guy in Stoystown, Pa.....google it. It's middle of nowhere, it seems

[galen216]

Anyway...he bought it from some guy in Stoystown, Pa.....google it. It's middle of nowhere, it seems

haha, Pennsylvania has a lot of middle of nowhere.

[o2batsea]

I think you should use this as a parts resource and look for one in better shape.

[yorker]

I think you should use this as a parts resource and look for one in better shape.

He has already got one in better shape! :D Now he has a project to keep busy with...

[Momo]

I think you should use this as a parts resource and look for one in better shape.

Ugh! Too nice to part out. Forget the rusty parts. Frames can be bought new...bulkheads now too. But once a series rig is parted it's gone for good.

JP what gray is that? Is it a LR color?

[yorker]

I think there are two greys, Mid Grey and another Grey?

http://www.landrover.net/paint/

[Bostonian1976]

gonna attempt the start-up this weekend. you guys really think it could fire up with existing wires and coil???

[jp-]

Momo,

I don't think it has a name. I just picked it out of a color book. I have the paint code somewhere, I can look it up if you want.


Bostonian,

Do NOT attempt to start it without first pulling the plugs out and putting some oil or ATF into the cylinders. Spin it over several times, replace plugs, and then try.

Most likely it will not start, without looking at the fuel system. The fuel system is the first thing to go when a vehicle sits.

[Bostonian1976]

Momo,

I don't think it has a name. I just picked it out of a color book. I have the paint code somewhere, I can look it up if you want.


Bostonian,

Do NOT attempt to start it without first pulling the plugs out and putting some oil or ATF into the cylinders. Spin it over several times, replace plugs, and then try.

Most likely it will not start, without looking at the fuel system. The fuel system is the first thing to go when a vehicle sits.

thanks jp. I'll do that. the previous owner says it turns over, so that is at least good. it should be interesting to see how it fares. I plan on just dumping some fuel in the carb to see if it at least fires....

[LaneRover]

I have a 1958 Series 1 107 SW that came in Grey. I could be very wrong but someone once said that all the 58 107 SW's came in Grey. It was also used on Rovers delivered to the Royal Navy if I remember correctly.

LaneRover

[Joecarville]

Boy I thouhgt iI was taking on a lot of work but you are a braver man than I..
Good Luck

[msggunny]

Just looking at that rust makes my skin hurt. Good luck. :thumb-up: