CarolinaBlue
01-18-2009, 10:24 PM
Masters of the Universe,
I took out my fuel pump today and I think the problem is in the pump mechanism at the bottom of the assembly. I have included some information on the part that I need. If anyone knows how to get this part in the states that would be a great help.
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Thanks for the pointer to eBay, Philip A - I have purchased one of the commodore fuel pumps as a spare to take on trips - just in case. The pump arrived promptly via Express Post on Friday and it appears to be a direct drop-in replacement for the LandRover pump.
The package contains the pump itself, as well as the filter sock, wiring harness (pump connector to bare ends 150mm long), a rubber sleeve which I assume is a silencer to slide over the pump body, a pair of small hose clamps and a moulded rubber seal which would be used in a commodore.
I have photographed the Borgg pump (right or lower) alongside the LandRover unit (left or upper) which I removed from my tank about 18months ago after it failed and it looks almost identical. Certainly the Discovery specific parts, the rubber moulding which sits between the end of the pump and the base of the carrier and the fuel hose fit fine.
From the seller's website the pump is sold as a Borgg pump "E F P 033" spec'd as follows:
SPECS:
APPLICATION PRESSURE: 350 kpa
MAX RELIEF PRESSURE : 750 kpa
FLOW RATE : 22.0 GRAM/SEC
FUEL: PETROL
DESCRIPTION: ELECTRIC FUEL PUMP
VEHICLE APPLICATION:INTANK ( ONLY SINGLE PUMP SYSTEM HOLDEN VN-VS 6 & 8 CYL )
DIAMETER: 43.5
HEIGHT : 130.6
INLET OUTER DIAMETER : 19.08 mm
INLET TYPE : BEAD END
OUTLET OUTER DIAMETER: 7.95 mm
VOLTAGE : 12V
The seller is "performanceworld1" and the buy now price was $55 plus $7 postage. It is listed as having a one year warranty, and the price is listed as a 2 week special but looking through the seller's feedback, this may be a marketing strategy as all previous purchases I found were at the same price. Nonetheless his service was extremely prompt and he kept me well informed of my order's progress via email.
My choice for replacing the pump back 18 months ago was to purchase a complete assembly from JB LandRover in the UK at $248 (ŁUK101). My contact there was extremely helpful and tried very hard to find me a pump motor only without success. I actually used the pump motor from the assembly in my original frame as it was metal whilst the new one appears to be nylon. I've checked the Borgg pump fits that brand new frame OK.
The Borg pump has no markings on it. The LandRover pump (I suspect it's Bosch) carries two numbers - 25165432 and A2895-2. The Borgg has a filter gauze inside the fuel entry orifice and the filter sock has a gauze packing to help it retain its shape better, neither of which are present in the LandRover pump.
Short of trying it in the vehicle (which is a little tricky as I have a set of "scuba" gas tanks mounted to the floor above it) I'm happy that it will at least make a good spare and I have no reason to believe it won't be a permanent repair should I require it.
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I took out my fuel pump today and I think the problem is in the pump mechanism at the bottom of the assembly. I have included some information on the part that I need. If anyone knows how to get this part in the states that would be a great help.
__________________________________________________ ___
"
Thanks for the pointer to eBay, Philip A - I have purchased one of the commodore fuel pumps as a spare to take on trips - just in case. The pump arrived promptly via Express Post on Friday and it appears to be a direct drop-in replacement for the LandRover pump.
The package contains the pump itself, as well as the filter sock, wiring harness (pump connector to bare ends 150mm long), a rubber sleeve which I assume is a silencer to slide over the pump body, a pair of small hose clamps and a moulded rubber seal which would be used in a commodore.
I have photographed the Borgg pump (right or lower) alongside the LandRover unit (left or upper) which I removed from my tank about 18months ago after it failed and it looks almost identical. Certainly the Discovery specific parts, the rubber moulding which sits between the end of the pump and the base of the carrier and the fuel hose fit fine.
From the seller's website the pump is sold as a Borgg pump "E F P 033" spec'd as follows:
SPECS:
APPLICATION PRESSURE: 350 kpa
MAX RELIEF PRESSURE : 750 kpa
FLOW RATE : 22.0 GRAM/SEC
FUEL: PETROL
DESCRIPTION: ELECTRIC FUEL PUMP
VEHICLE APPLICATION:INTANK ( ONLY SINGLE PUMP SYSTEM HOLDEN VN-VS 6 & 8 CYL )
DIAMETER: 43.5
HEIGHT : 130.6
INLET OUTER DIAMETER : 19.08 mm
INLET TYPE : BEAD END
OUTLET OUTER DIAMETER: 7.95 mm
VOLTAGE : 12V
The seller is "performanceworld1" and the buy now price was $55 plus $7 postage. It is listed as having a one year warranty, and the price is listed as a 2 week special but looking through the seller's feedback, this may be a marketing strategy as all previous purchases I found were at the same price. Nonetheless his service was extremely prompt and he kept me well informed of my order's progress via email.
My choice for replacing the pump back 18 months ago was to purchase a complete assembly from JB LandRover in the UK at $248 (ŁUK101). My contact there was extremely helpful and tried very hard to find me a pump motor only without success. I actually used the pump motor from the assembly in my original frame as it was metal whilst the new one appears to be nylon. I've checked the Borgg pump fits that brand new frame OK.
The Borg pump has no markings on it. The LandRover pump (I suspect it's Bosch) carries two numbers - 25165432 and A2895-2. The Borgg has a filter gauze inside the fuel entry orifice and the filter sock has a gauze packing to help it retain its shape better, neither of which are present in the LandRover pump.
Short of trying it in the vehicle (which is a little tricky as I have a set of "scuba" gas tanks mounted to the floor above it) I'm happy that it will at least make a good spare and I have no reason to believe it won't be a permanent repair should I require it.
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