Identifying 16" wheels

[east high]

I have five 16" wheels that I *hope* to use on my 88, which has 15" wheels currently. I've identified four of the five, but one remains a mystery.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/daveslandyandngstuff/wheels.htm

According to this chart, I have the following:

3x 569690
1x 231601

The mystery one is below:

TS4364/12

Can anyone help identifying the last wheel? Anyone know if the 231601 wheel will work with the other three (569690)?

[leafsprung]

There are many more types than the chart shows. Best way to determine compatibility is to measure them

[east high]

Some of the rims say 16x5.5, but what's more important, the width or the offset? Is the axel width on a 109 different than the 88? Salisbury?? I'm still learning about some of this stuff..


There are many more types than the chart shows. Best way to determine compatibility is to measure them

[leafsprung]

If you want a matched set, they are both important. Axle widths are the same through the SII/SIIA/SIII 88s and 109 regulars and wagons.

[Linus Tremaine]

I think the one that you are unsure about is a two inch offset. I belive that is the same number on my friend matts truck. If that is what they are, they are a good choice probably the best choice acutally.

231601 is a one inch offset, a poor choice in my opinion. Give you a narrow track and a smaller turning radius though..

I have 272309s on my dormobile. They are the original rims and have a 1-3/4 inch offset. They are good enough.

I think that you are better off keeping your 15s. They have a large offset and a good selection of tires that fit them. If you really want to change to 16" rims you shouldnt bother with any rims unless they are the newer 2" offset. You can get them from d110 or new from a land rover parts retailer.

[Linus Tremaine]

To finish answering your question:

No. You shouldnt use all of those together. They are all different offsets. I am not qualified to say why that is a bad idea exactly.

[LaneRover]

To finish answering your question:

No. You shouldnt use all of those together. They are all different offsets. I am not qualified to say why that is a bad idea exactly.

Though it would make for an interesting set of tracks to follow!

[LaneRover]

With different offsets, different forces are being loaded into the steering. Different offsets in back will matter less then up front but it will still matter. You may be able to drive just fine under MOST conditions with rims of different offsets but the different offsets matter most when you most want them to not matter at all. . . . . ie in an emergency situation.

[scott]

all this offset speaking has me wondering. i've 16s on my 88. don't know the offset. i've now got a sankey that i was hoping to make it so all 7 rims would be interchangeable. how do you measure the off set? is it the inside of the rim to the inside of the lug holes? what is standard? what would be a 2" offset?

[leafsprung]

Subtract wheel center line from Wheel backspace to get offset.

[east high]

Let me know what you find out. Sounds like I might have a variety a wheels to swap with you if you find out you're running a mix matched set.


all this offset speaking has me wondering. i've 16s on my 88. don't know the offset. i've now got a sankey that i was hoping to make it so all 7 rims would be interchangeable. how do you measure the off set? is it the inside of the rim to the inside of the lug holes? what is standard? what would be a 2" offset?

[badvibes]

Let's see if this shows up and may help explain stuff...

The easiest way to measure backspace is to lay the wheel face down onto the ground so the backside of the wheel is facing up. Take a straight edge and lay it diagonally across the inboard flange (https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html#wheeltrm) of the wheel. Take a tape measure and measure the distance from where the straight edge contacts the inboard flange to the hub mounting pad (https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html#wheeltrm) of the wheel. This measurement is backspace. https://www.rsracing.com/images/tech-wheelfit1.gifMeasuring Wheel Offset

To calculate offset you'll need the following measurements:
https://www.rsracing.com/_themes/rstheme1/abstrbu1.gifWheel backspacehttps://www.rsracing.com/_themes/rstheme1/abstrbu1.gifWheel Widthhttps://www.rsracing.com/_themes/rstheme1/abstrbu1.gifWheel Center line (outboard flange to inboard flange measurement / 2)Subtract:
https://www.rsracing.com/_themes/rstheme1/abstrbu1.gifWheel center line from Wheel backspace to get offset. https://www.rsracing.com/_themes/rstheme1/abstrbu2.gifIf backspace is less than the wheel centerline the offset is negativehttps://www.rsracing.com/_themes/rstheme1/abstrbu2.gifIf backspace is greater than the wheel centerline the offset is positiveTip:
https://www.rsracing.com/_themes/rstheme1/abstrbu1.gifTo convert from inches to mm multiply by 25.4https://www.rsracing.com/_themes/rstheme1/abstrbu1.gifTo convert from mm to inches divide by 25.4