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  • Jim-ME
    Overdrive
    • Oct 2006
    • 1379

    Steering Boxes

    Is there any way a Series 3 steering box can be modified to use the banjo type steering wheel?
    Thanks,
    Jim
  • MerlynIIa
    Low Range
    • Sep 2007
    • 54

    #2
    I would like to know if anyone has tried this also. I have a nice banjo wheel that would look good in my Series III, if it will fit.
    '65 Series IIa (not running)
    "73 Series III (not running)
    (combining the two to make one.)
    '00 Disco II

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    • greenmeanie
      Overdrive
      • Oct 2006
      • 1358

      #3
      All it takes is time, money and, if you are lucky, skill for anything like that. The box and scroll at the base of the column are the same but the outer column and top of the inner column are different. Obviously you are interested in the spline at the top to mount the steering wheel.

      The late IIA/III columns use a bearing as the upper support just under the steering wheel while the earlier ones use a bushing. You'd need to get the earlier IIa column and measure the diameter at this point. You might find the diameter is the same in which case it is simply a matter of a rebuild using the early column. If they are not then you need to change the diameter by sleeving or turning it down.

      There are plenty of methods to slice, dice, chop and join it to work. After all it is just metal.

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      • S11A
        2nd Gear
        • Apr 2007
        • 218

        #4
        I can't add anything to the discussion about diameter and splining, but if these are different between the series, then you might look into a quick-release steering hub. These are meant to attach to a steering wheel that has multiple bolt holes but someone might make these or a non-release device to adapt between different spline sizes and shaft diameter.

        Plus you could take the wheel with you for instant ant-theft protection
        1965 Series 2A 109 pickup diesel

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        • jp-
          5th Gear
          • Oct 2006
          • 981

          #5
          It won't be easy. I posted a photo in another thread showing the two columns side by side. SII has larger diameter splines, SIIA has smaller splines.

          61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
          66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
          66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
          67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
          88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

          -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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          • MerlynIIa
            Low Range
            • Sep 2007
            • 54

            #6
            I'm a bit confused and checking here. the post with the comparison photos are between a II and a IIa? What about between a IIa and a III? my banjo wheel is in a '65 IIa and I would love to put it in a '73/74 III. Is the IIa banjo column in mine the same as the II, while the IIa in the photo is a late IIa, like the III?
            '65 Series IIa (not running)
            "73 Series III (not running)
            (combining the two to make one.)
            '00 Disco II

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            • LaneRover
              Overdrive
              • Oct 2006
              • 1743

              #7
              I believe that late IIA and III where the same. If the foggy recesses of my brain are correct the change from the banjo to the plastic steering wheel happened in '66 or so...
              1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
              1965 109 SW - nearly running well
              1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
              1969 109 P-UP

              http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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              • Eric W S
                5th Gear
                • Dec 2006
                • 609

                #8
                Originally posted by LaneRover
                I believe that late IIA and III where the same. If the foggy recesses of my brain are correct the change from the banjo to the plastic steering wheel happened in '66 or so...
                Nothing is written in stone as far as rovers are concerned. My 66 has a banjo wheel. . .

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                • leafsprung
                  Overdrive
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1008

                  #9
                  Ive done it. Its just as easy to swap in a earlier box (which I have if anyone needs)

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                  • greenmeanie
                    Overdrive
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 1358

                    #10
                    Ike,
                    For those interested in the modicum of security it provides, can the earlier box/column be modified to retain the steering lock?

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                    • leafsprung
                      Overdrive
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 1008

                      #11
                      boxes

                      I assume you mean the late box. You can do two things. Graft the top of an early shaft to a late one or replicate the lock recess in an early column.

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                      • MerlynIIa
                        Low Range
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 54

                        #12
                        I am curious leafsprung, when you changed out the column, did you use the old turn signel with the rubber wheel and a separate ignition switch or were you able to use the plastic column surround with ignition and turnsignal from the III on the IIa column?
                        '65 Series IIa (not running)
                        "73 Series III (not running)
                        (combining the two to make one.)
                        '00 Disco II

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