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  • Cosmic88
    Low Range
    • Feb 2009
    • 78

    ?Best shop manual for rebuilding/maintaining '67 IIA?

    I'm sure opinions will differ on this subject but I welcome the barrage of answers. I just aquired a '67 IIA (my first) and simply need "The Book" to loosely guide me through the restoration and refab. Any suggestions???

    My grandfather always told me to read the instructions first... so here I am.
    -Cosmo-
    '66 IIA 88" - Stock-ish Trail Rider

    '95 Disco R380 5 spd DD
    ARB winch bull bar
    Warn 8k
    Gulf States Grill
    OME HD 2" lift
    home made limb risers
    LR rack with too many Hellas
    on-and-on-and....
  • LaneRover
    Overdrive
    • Oct 2006
    • 1743

    #2
    Many people here will point you in the direction of the 'Green Bible', Land Rover's own repair guide. If you are new to auto repair the book makes assumptions that you know what you are doing in some situations. So I would also get a Hayne's Manual (or something similar). Or start with a Haynes as they are cheaper and as you delve deeper into maintaining your Rover spring for the Land Rover book.

    Either way everyone here is real helpful and can give you many suggestions.

    Brent
    1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
    1965 109 SW - nearly running well
    1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
    1969 109 P-UP

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    • Cosmic88
      Low Range
      • Feb 2009
      • 78

      #3
      are these the manuals you refer to?

      I have a decent amount of automotive repair... learned on a Gardner 6LXB Diesel at 16 yrs old and progressed on from there... and (yacht) restoration in my background so I feel confident. Are these the manuals you are refering to?

      -Cosmo-
      '66 IIA 88" - Stock-ish Trail Rider

      '95 Disco R380 5 spd DD
      ARB winch bull bar
      Warn 8k
      Gulf States Grill
      OME HD 2" lift
      home made limb risers
      LR rack with too many Hellas
      on-and-on-and....

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      • SafeAirOne
        Overdrive
        • Apr 2008
        • 3435

        #4
        Oddly enough, If I were restoring a Series IIA Rover, I think I would find the "Haynes Land Rover Restoration Manual" of limited value, since the book deals mostly with Series I restoration. I know....many parts are similar and the techniques are gererally the same as on every other rover, but there are still differences significant enough to limit this books value to a SIIA restorer.

        As for the Haynes model-specific Land Rover REPAIR manuals, I can't say one way or the other, since I don't have any or those, but they should be of more specific use to you, I suspect:



        --Mark

        1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

        0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
        (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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        • Cosmic88
          Low Range
          • Feb 2009
          • 78

          #5
          Good info... I'll pick up the Series specific book so thanks. What do you thnk about the Green LR II & IIA book?
          -Cosmo-
          '66 IIA 88" - Stock-ish Trail Rider

          '95 Disco R380 5 spd DD
          ARB winch bull bar
          Warn 8k
          Gulf States Grill
          OME HD 2" lift
          home made limb risers
          LR rack with too many Hellas
          on-and-on-and....

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          • Jeff Aronson
            Moderator
            • Oct 2006
            • 569

            #6
            As mentioned above, the Land Rover II/II-A book is very complete but it was written for mechanics. The Haynes manual assumes that you're not a mechanic, so some terms and explanations are easier to understand. That said, the Land Rover manual has more detail and diagrams than the Haynes manual.

            When I first started to work on my Series II-A, I bought the Haynes manual and wore it out so badly I had to buy another. The LR shop manual came later [again, some diagrams and procedures were more complete], and I'm delighted to have both books.

            Jeff
            Jeff Aronson
            Vinalhaven, ME 04863
            '66 Series II-A SW 88"
            '66 Series II-A HT 88"
            '80 Triumph TR-7 Spider
            '80 Triumph Spitfire
            '66 Corvair Monza Coupe
            http://www.landroverwriter.com

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            • Cosmic88
              Low Range
              • Feb 2009
              • 78

              #7
              Thank You All...

              I'll purchase both the books and wear them out equally

              I can already tell this site will be a great resource for info and sharing. Thanks again everyone!
              -Cosmo-
              '66 IIA 88" - Stock-ish Trail Rider

              '95 Disco R380 5 spd DD
              ARB winch bull bar
              Warn 8k
              Gulf States Grill
              OME HD 2" lift
              home made limb risers
              LR rack with too many Hellas
              on-and-on-and....

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              • Eric W S
                5th Gear
                • Dec 2006
                • 609

                #8
                I am by no means a mechanic. The green bible is written plainly enough that a novice can follow it. I can and this is my first restoration.

                I would skip the haynes all together and invest in the Green Bible.

                EwS

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                • SafeAirOne
                  Overdrive
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 3435

                  #9
                  I don't know about the Series Rover Haynes manuals, but other Haynes Manuals I've had the displeasure to purchase essentially say "You've wasted $20 buying this book. Take it to a mechanic" on the more difficult repair tasks. It drives me completely insane when I see this.

                  Of course this relates to the more modern vehicles I've had to fix--I hope that there's nothing so complex on the Series Rover that Haynes just throws in the towel, but again, I don't own a Series Rover Haynes Repair Manual, so I don't know.

                  Of course you'll find none of that in the Land Rover Factory Workshop Manuals. Very detailed and if you don't understand something there's a picture there with number labels that correspond to the paragraph number in the instructions.
                  --Mark

                  1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                  0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                  (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                  • CMorris
                    Low Range
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66

                    #10
                    Not sure if anyone else uses them, but on the advice from Lanny Clark when I was rebuilding my '60 SII I bought a Land Rover Parts manual (EBAY). I found it to be very helpful with page after page of of straight forward diagrams of all of the systems/components, no mechanical suggestions or help at all, but sounds as if you don't really need that. Good Luck.

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                    • Leslie
                      5th Gear
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 613

                      #11
                      The 'green bible', the ROM, is a must-have. I would highly suggest the parts book to go with it.

                      The Haynes manuals are nice to have; much of it is simply copies of the green bible, but sometimes, it might have a slightly different perspective/description that helps clarify something. The Haynes manual for a Rover isn't as worthless as the other vehicles' manuals, as a Rover is so simple to work on...

                      Mark,
                      I've got a copy of that Haynes Restoration manual, and find it nice to have at times: it does have a section in there on SI, but the project vehicle for the book is a SIIa. It's no replacement for the ROM, but it's nice to have.
                      -L

                      '72 SIII SW 88"
                      '60 SII 88" RHD

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                      • TSR53
                        5th Gear
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 733

                        #12

                        LAND ROVER SERIES IIA - PARTS MANUAL




                        LAND ROVER SERIES IIA SINGLE VOLUME WORKSHOP MANUAL


                        or if you prefer CD-ROM digital version...



                        CD-ROM 1961-71 LAND ROVER SERIES IIA MANUALS & HANDBOOKS
                        Cheers, Thompson
                        Art & Creative Director, Rovers Magazine
                        Rovers North, Inc.

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                        • cachinfool
                          Low Range
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 42

                          #13
                          i bought the bible on cd rom and it's great....except you can't install it on you're computer. you must run it from the cd while it's in the drive to view the pdf's.
                          maybe like so many other cd programs there's a registry hack to get around it but i haven't found it.
                          How come dumb stuff always seems so smart when your doing it?
                          David Crockett

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                          • SafeAirOne
                            Overdrive
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 3435

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Leslie
                            I've got a copy of that Haynes Restoration manual, and find it nice to have at times: it does have a section in there on SI, but the project vehicle for the book is a SIIa.
                            I stand corrected...Section 4 is the Series I part. Section 3 (the bodywork section) does use a IIA. Section 5 deals with the 2 1/4 petrol engine.
                            --Mark

                            1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                            0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                            (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                            • I Leak Oil
                              Overdrive
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 1796

                              #15
                              Series trucks are simple enough that you can get away with just the Haynes repair manual. I've used it for a long time now. I did pickup a factory manual, but really, have never needed it due to lack of info in the Haynes. The CD ROM is a good idea because you can print the specific pages you want, get oil and dirt all over the pages, then throw them out when you're done. The factory manual is a bit pricey to be doing that to.
                              Jason T.
                              Jason
                              "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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