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  • navydevildoc
    1st Gear
    • Feb 2009
    • 141

    Diff Third Member Mounting Bolts

    In the continuing saga of my snapped axles, I now have a new problem.

    I had to remove the diff from the axle to fish out all of the bits-o-axle from the diff housing. In the process of removing it I found a SPO trick; all sorts of nuts, at least 3 different kinds holding it on.

    We have an outstanding industrial hardware store here in San Diego, so I grab some of the nuts and head down there so I can get nice new stainless ones. However, at least one of the nuts was stripped out, and the ones I had didn't really fit the "nut sizer" board.

    It's 3/8s inch, but not fine or course thread. I am thinking that this means they are one of those awesome British standards, but I want to be sure before I try hunting some replacements down.

    I am also going to need to get some new bolts, as several are stripped out. Yay for me. I am thinking the easiest way to get them out is to break out the angle grinder and chop off the ends of each as close to the axle housing as I can, and then back them out through the inside.

    So... are they "uniquely british" as I fear? The Bible doesn't say.
    2005 LR3
    1965 RHD Series IIA currently aka "The hope crusher"
  • gudjeon
    5th Gear
    • Oct 2006
    • 613

    #2
    I would not rule out metrix either.

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    • Mercedesrover
      3rd Gear
      • Oct 2006
      • 343

      #3
      They're 3/8" x 18. I have a pile of old studs and nuts around from axles I've converted to 'Yota centers. Give me an address and I'll ship you a pile.

      jim
      www.seriestrek.com

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      • Mercedesrover
        3rd Gear
        • Oct 2006
        • 343

        #4
        Actually, they're 3/8" x 24, or at least the ones I have are. I put 10 studs and nuts in an envelope to you.

        jim
        www.seriestrek.com

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        • daveb
          5th Gear
          • Nov 2006
          • 513

          #5
          they are press in from the back. apply hammer to the front to remove...



          Originally posted by navydevildoc

          I am also going to need to get some new bolts, as several are stripped out. Yay for me. I am thinking the easiest way to get them out is to break out the angle grinder and chop off the ends of each as close to the axle housing as I can, and then back them out through the inside.

          So... are they "uniquely british" as I fear? The Bible doesn't say.
          A Land Rover would never turn up to collect an Oscar. It'd be far too busy doing something important, somewhere, for someone."


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          • Eric W S
            5th Gear
            • Dec 2006
            • 609

            #6
            Originally posted by navydevildoc

            We have an outstanding industrial hardware store here in San Diego, so I grab some of the nuts and head down there so I can get nice new stainless ones. However, at least one of the nuts was stripped out, and the ones I had didn't really fit the "nut sizer" board.
            Don't waste your money on stainless for a diff. Grab the ones MercJim is offering and be done with it.

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            • Les Parker
              RN Sales Team - Super Moderator
              • May 2006
              • 2020

              #7
              I believe the Series II ones were BSF and held in with locking wire on the inside of the diff housing. !!
              Quality British engineering !

              Les Parker
              Tech. Support and Parts Specialist
              Rovers North Inc.

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              • navydevildoc
                1st Gear
                • Feb 2009
                • 141

                #8
                Originally posted by Les Parker
                I believe the Series II ones were BSF and held in with locking wire on the inside of the diff housing. !!
                Quality British engineering !

                Yes, they have safety wire going around the inside from bolt to bolt.

                So now we have various answers to what these bolts are...

                3/8 x 24? Didn't see this before now, too bad because I am pretty sure they are not 24 thread. We will know for sure when Jim's envelope arrives.

                I am also pretty sure they are not press fit from the rear, but I will have to go out and check that real close. If memory serves from when I pulled one out, the diff housing had threaded holes.

                They certainly are safety wired, in fact the wire had snapped on one side.

                So am I back to thinking it's BSW or BSF?
                2005 LR3
                1965 RHD Series IIA currently aka "The hope crusher"

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                • Les Parker
                  RN Sales Team - Super Moderator
                  • May 2006
                  • 2020

                  #9
                  Hello,

                  The data I can find is :-

                  3/8 BSF taps = 3/8 x 20 BSF tap


                  Hope this helps, alternatively you could replace with the later "press in " IIa/III studs.
                  Les Parker
                  Tech. Support and Parts Specialist
                  Rovers North Inc.

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                  • navydevildoc
                    1st Gear
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 141

                    #10
                    Les, I might be calling you later this morning when I get in to work... see what my options look like.
                    2005 LR3
                    1965 RHD Series IIA currently aka "The hope crusher"

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                    • Les Parker
                      RN Sales Team - Super Moderator
                      • May 2006
                      • 2020

                      #11
                      OK, let me know.

                      Les Parker
                      Tech. Support and Parts Specialist
                      Rovers North Inc.

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                      • navydevildoc
                        1st Gear
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 141

                        #12
                        Well, Les at RN and Jim (mercedesrover), thanks for everything!

                        Unfortunately, I have had nothing but problems, not the least of which is now a stripped out drain plug. If it was the plug, that wouldn't be too bad. But it's the threads in the axle that simply vanished, and the plug wasn't even tight yet.



                        To be honest, I have been thinking of dumping this axle anyway, and this just pushes me further down that path.
                        2005 LR3
                        1965 RHD Series IIA currently aka "The hope crusher"

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                        • scott
                          Overdrive
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 1226

                          #13
                          hey there devildoc, i once painted my my fill plug stuck. fearing i'd strip it, i did my diff oil change refills by removing a hub and axle, jacking that side of my truck up about 2 ft, pour the oil in.

                          you might be able to find a new bung hole, cut out the old and weld it in. or http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/...ng_p_1608.html
                          Last edited by scott; 04-14-2009, 05:13 PM.
                          '64 Series IIA 88 Canvas Tilt
                          '68 Series IIA RHD Ambulance
                          '76 Spitfire 1500
                          '07 LR3 (Series Recovery Vehicle)

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                          • navydevildoc
                            1st Gear
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 141

                            #14
                            Well, I have been doing some daydreaming on my master plan, and I might just make the big jump and get a coil frame (needs a new frame anyway) and get some D1 or RR axles for it.

                            A while ago I made the decision that this wasn't going to be a 100% accurate "restore" but much more of a "rebuild" of what I want. I have some cash to blow and enjoy wrenching on it... so the plan is looking like a coil chassis from Designa Chassis, and a 300tdi.

                            Looks like I am going to have a ton of time off of work in the summer so if I get my act together I can get a lot of it done.

                            So in the end, it means that this freaking axle/diff disaster doesn't matter, as there will be a new chassis and axles sitting next to the truck soon.
                            2005 LR3
                            1965 RHD Series IIA currently aka "The hope crusher"

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                            • Eric W S
                              5th Gear
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 609

                              #15
                              Originally posted by navydevildoc
                              Well, I have been doing some daydreaming on my master plan, and I might just make the big jump and get a coil frame (needs a new frame anyway) and get some D1 or RR axles for it.

                              A while ago I made the decision that this wasn't going to be a 100% accurate "restore" but much more of a "rebuild" of what I want. I have some cash to blow and enjoy wrenching on it... so the plan is looking like a coil chassis from Designa Chassis, and a 300tdi.

                              Looks like I am going to have a ton of time off of work in the summer so if I get my act together I can get a lot of it done.

                              So in the end, it means that this freaking axle/diff disaster doesn't matter, as there will be a new chassis and axles sitting next to the truck soon.
                              Wow! That's going to be an extremely expensive build given the cost of a 300tdi these days...

                              But sounds cool even from a traditionalist like myself...Post pics!

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