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  • ErikP
    Low Range
    • Dec 2009
    • 7

    engine overheating

    has anyone ever heard of a bad ground causing an engine to run hot/overheat? if so, why does it happen? i've replaced the thermostat, is there any other reason the engine would overheat?

    Thanks
    Erik
  • SafeAirOne
    Overdrive
    • Apr 2008
    • 3435

    #2
    Originally posted by ErikP
    has anyone ever heard of a bad ground causing an engine to run hot/overheat? if so, why does it happen? i've replaced the thermostat, is there any other reason the engine would overheat?

    Thanks
    Erik

    Yeah--If you have an electric cooling fan with a bad ground you could overheat depending on the season and type of driving and type of engine.
    --Mark

    1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

    0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
    (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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    • ktom300
      Low Range
      • Apr 2008
      • 50

      #3
      Mine used to overheat after I shut it off. I added some "water wetter" and it never happened again.

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      • jgkmmoore
        1st Gear
        • Sep 2008
        • 105

        #4
        overheating

        You may want to consider having your radiator inspected/tested at a radiator shop if it's really old, and you know it's never been out of the car. If it's old...have it rodded out, or get a newer one. Be sure your pressure cap is good(last thing everyone chks). Leaks? Look at the inside of the bonnet to see if it has been slinging water. Shake your fan blades to see if pump is ok. Could you have an air bubble in the heater circuit? Timing set right? How bad does it overheat? Clear into the nuclear area? or just below boil? Have you changed the coolant regularily? Backflushed it?
        Gotta manual?

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        • scott
          Overdrive
          • Oct 2006
          • 1226

          #5
          ya gotta have a clogged rad. mine used to leak, hole was on the top so it ran about a gallon short almost all the time and cause i'm cheap i stopped adding coolant and with just a couple of gallons of water it still ran at normal temps
          '64 Series IIA 88 Canvas Tilt
          '68 Series IIA RHD Ambulance
          '76 Spitfire 1500
          '07 LR3 (Series Recovery Vehicle)

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          • greenmeanie
            Overdrive
            • Oct 2006
            • 1358

            #6
            I'll thradh my 88 down the freeway at 3800rpm for a couple of hours and she doesn't get over 3/4 up the temp gauge.

            Things that affect temp other than the aforementioned clogged radiator and thermostat:
            - Make sure you have a fan shroud. It makes a difference in forcing the fan to pull air through the rad instead of just churning it around in the engine bay.
            - MAke sure the fan is on the right way round so you are pulling and not pushing air.
            - Timing. Incorrect timing and a toolean fuel mixture will cause temps to rise.
            - Wash the front and rear of the rad with a hose to unclog the fins.
            - Replace any old hoses.
            - Cracked head/block.

            Do a search as there have been inumerable posts on overhaeting issues.

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            • ErikP
              Low Range
              • Dec 2009
              • 7

              #7
              overheating continued

              the radiator is new

              the fan is non correctly

              the shroud is not on, but overheating occurs even on cold winter days in maine.

              the timing is good (checked with a strobe).

              the engine is almost maxed out on the temp gage, by the way.

              what about mixture, does a lean engine run hot? would it cause it to completely red line?

              Thanks all for the help.

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              • SafeAirOne
                Overdrive
                • Apr 2008
                • 3435

                #8
                Is the engine, in fact, running hot? Or is it just indicating hot?

                Is the fan belt missing?

                Is the cooling system full and free of air?

                Was the onset of the problem sudden or gradual?

                Is the coolant or the engine oil milky and coagulated?
                --Mark

                1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                • Sputnicker
                  1st Gear
                  • May 2009
                  • 105

                  #9
                  Are you sure it's actually running hot, or is it possible that the gauge is reading wrong?

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                  • ErikP
                    Low Range
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 7

                    #10
                    the engine has always run hot, ever since i rebuilt it.

                    the coolant is not milky.

                    the engine loses power when it redlines.

                    there is no squeeking, so i assume the belt is fine. i'll double check though.

                    if i open the radiator (cool engine) should i eventually see flow out of the top hose as the engine warms?

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                    • badvibes
                      3rd Gear
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 364

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ErikP
                      the radiator is new
                      Why did you put a new radiator in? Old one shot/non-repairable? Did you put in a new thermostat at the same time? Was the truck overheating before the rad replacement? Just looking for more information.

                      Jeff

                      EDIT: Saw you stated you've installed a new thermostat. Have you run the truck witout a thermostat?
                      1964 Series 2A SW, LHD mostly stock, often runs!

                      1991 Range Rover Hunter

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                      • ErikP
                        Low Range
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 7

                        #12
                        Originally posted by badvibes
                        Why did you put a new radiator in? Old one shot/non-repairable? Did you put in a new thermostat at the same time? Was the truck overheating before the rad replacement? Just looking for more information.

                        Jeff

                        EDIT: Saw you stated you've installed a new thermostat. Have you run the truck witout a thermostat?

                        the old rad leaked and was unrepairable (its free for anyone who picks it up). the engine was rebored(could grinding debris clog get in the water passages?) the thermostat is new and in correctly. How do i get air out of the engine if that is the problem? Hose? if engine is running hot because its set too lean, then would pulling the choke out cause the engine to cool down? Thanks.

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                        • badvibes
                          3rd Gear
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 364

                          #13
                          Erik-

                          What was the coolant like when you swapped rads? Clear, green, brown, sludge? Did you flush the system when you did the swap until you got clear running water? If the rad is new, thermostat is new, the only other piece I'd question is the water pump. By running the truck without the thermostat the flow is unrestricted and should not get hot, it may have trouble even getting warm enough. IF there is flow and no blockage in the system somewhere. If the coolant looked brown/rusty/sludgy when you did the swap and you didn't flush the system I'd try doing that, flush the entire system until you have clear running water coming out. What does your exhaust look like? Does it look whitish at all?

                          Jeff
                          1964 Series 2A SW, LHD mostly stock, often runs!

                          1991 Range Rover Hunter

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                          • ErikP
                            Low Range
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 7

                            #14
                            I think my problem is solved. put a hose to the rad while the engine was running and al of a sudden started to get flow out of the top of the rad hose (thermostat removed). looks like it was trapped air.

                            Thank you everyone for all of your help.

                            Erik

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                            • badvibes
                              3rd Gear
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 364

                              #15
                              Cool! (no pun intended) Glad you got it resolved.
                              1964 Series 2A SW, LHD mostly stock, often runs!

                              1991 Range Rover Hunter

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