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  • John O from Jersey
    Low Range
    • Jun 2008
    • 62

    Roof Rivet Question

    Was going to hijack Thixon's "Rivet gun on sale" thread but thought better of it ()
    Anyone know exactly what size semi-tubular rivet is needed to join the roof to the roof drip rail?? I had written it down a year ago from a previous thread and now can't find it or the old thread.

    Also, what is the best way to set those?? Is there some type of .401 shank for an air hamer/rivet gun or is there some type of squeezer involved??

    Thanks!!!

    John O
  • Dav1550
    Low Range
    • Oct 2006
    • 80

    #2
    Truss/Brazier head, Semi-tubular aluminum …….
    3/16 dia. X 5/16 L ……are near exact replacement.
    3/16 dia. X 3/8 L …… Is what I ended up using, as I was a bit more generous with the sealer and after re- galvanizing the gutter was a shade thicker.

    Semi-tubular can be set with a rivet gun and diff, but found a hand rivet squeezer the better method for ease of use and control……. Especially so when say setting the near 100 rivets of a 109 roof.

    Cheers,
    Dave

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    • SafeAirOne
      Overdrive
      • Apr 2008
      • 3435

      #3
      Use a hand squeeze and the a tubular rivet die set. Not sure how it'd work out with any other method.

      Here's what I use for doing solid rivets. It's a really nice stainless steel squeeze at a good price: http://www.yardstore.com/browse.cfm/4,4749.html

      Hanson rivet sells the die sets for tubular rivets: http://www.hansonrivet.com/w83.htm
      --Mark

      1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

      0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
      (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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      • John O from Jersey
        Low Range
        • Jun 2008
        • 62

        #4
        Thanks a bunch - that's exactly what I needed. Carpal tunnel here I come .

        JO

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        • SGS714
          Low Range
          • Jan 2007
          • 83

          #5
          Originally posted by SafeAirOne
          Use a hand squeeze and the a tubular rivet die set. Not sure how it'd work out with any other method.

          Here's what I use for doing solid rivets. It's a really nice stainless steel squeeze at a good price: http://www.yardstore.com/browse.cfm/4,4749.html

          Hanson rivet sells the die sets for tubular rivets: http://www.hansonrivet.com/w83.htm
          Is this what you would use for door and top weather stripping also? I am not happy with the way Pop Rivets look at all nor with their consistency in holding.
          ________________________
          67 Series II
          71 Series IIa 88" ACR 2.8 Power Plus
          89 RRC SWB 2-Door 2.4L tdi Spanish
          93 D110 NAS 327
          94 2x D90 NAS #'s 1076, 1181
          95 3x RRC 2-SWB, 1-LWB

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          • SafeAirOne
            Overdrive
            • Apr 2008
            • 3435

            #6
            Originally posted by SGS714
            Is this what you would use for door and top weather stripping also? I am not happy with the way Pop Rivets look at all nor with their consistency in holding.
            I suppose you could, with the right rivet. I'm not entirely sure tubular rivets are the way to go with this application. I don't know what rovers originally had holding the weatherstripping on, but blind (pop) rivets are the easiest to install and remove when the time comes to replace the weatherstripping.



            BTW...John O...The Yard store has an economical ($65) light-to-medium duty imported rivet squeeze that would be sufficient for this roof job:
            --Mark

            1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

            0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
            (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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            • Dav1550
              Low Range
              • Oct 2006
              • 80

              #7
              Originally posted by SGS714
              Is this what you would use for door and top weather stripping also? I am not happy with the way Pop Rivets look at all nor with their consistency in holding.
              Yes, Semi-tubular rivets were originally used in installation of door seals, along with glue. I wouldn’t say that semi-tubular rivets will do a better at holding door seals than blind rivets, but I’d be sure to use a good adhesive such as 3m Super weatherstrip adhesive which ever rivet is used.
              Cheers,
              Dave
              74 109sw

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              • Bertha
                3rd Gear
                • Nov 2007
                • 384

                #8
                Originally posted by SGS714
                Is this what you would use for door and top weather stripping also? I am not happy with the way Pop Rivets look at all nor with their consistency in holding.
                Tube rivets are what originally held the weatherstripping in place in most areas. The areas where there wasn't access to both sides with a tool, had pop rivets.
                1965 109 2door hardtop (restored years ago)
                1971 88 (restored and as new)
                1967 88 (the next project)

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                • SGS714
                  Low Range
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 83

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dav1550
                  Yes, Semi-tubular rivets were originally used in installation of door seals, along with glue. I wouldn’t say that semi-tubular rivets will do a better at holding door seals than blind rivets, but I’d be sure to use a good adhesive such as 3m Super weatherstrip adhesive which ever rivet is used.
                  Cheers,
                  Dave
                  74 109sw
                  Perfect....And not having any natural mechanical ability or a mentor in the art of truck repair/rebuild I had no idea one would use an adhesive also....makes perfect sense.
                  ________________________
                  67 Series II
                  71 Series IIa 88" ACR 2.8 Power Plus
                  89 RRC SWB 2-Door 2.4L tdi Spanish
                  93 D110 NAS 327
                  94 2x D90 NAS #'s 1076, 1181
                  95 3x RRC 2-SWB, 1-LWB

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