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Thread: 1983 Ex-MOD Defender 110 3-door

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambrinus View Post
    The process to get the paperwork 100% legal and correct will vary by state. Some states may let you register it as a "kit car" or "reconstructed vehicle". Until the paperwork is right, it's nothing more than a mobile pile of spare parts for someone.

    RW
    ...unless Customs, DOT or some other federal agency find you first.
    Either way, ownership of a truck like this represents a certain degree of risk that is not acceptable to some.

    There are "layers" of issues with this particular offering.

    I agree that state laws vary considerably and while you may have no problem in CO, the peoples Republic of California may be a different story. Obtaining a title in a US state does not mean that the truck is legal. That's not really the underlying issue with this truck. In this case, the VIN tag came from a 1961 88" rover which could never be confused with a LWB 110" (in terms of chassis), so the VIN has obviously been swapped (a felony with 3-5 year sentence BTW).
    The real and correct VIN remains clearly visible on the frame ahead of the front wheel. This VIN is a 17-digit type that will tell you the proper history. I'd have less of a problem if the VIN came from a late Series 3 109/110", but come on an S2 88" title? really? Good luck with your insurance if ANYONE files a claim on that.

    Also, without Customs clearance history or paperwork, this is absolutely subject to seizure - FACT. No such documentation exists.

    Those that would like to roll the dice on ownership are taking a HUGE risk. There is a right way and wrong way to import Rovers and this was most certaintly the latter.

    Finally, you can easily do the math on this. The truck is supposedly an '83 right?, but the actual VIN (SALLDHAC7BA252300) on the chassis suggests it's late in the run, so most likely an '85 or '86 and since it's Ex-MOD, the UK V5 was probably incorrect as well. The owner has owned it for three years, prior to which it was in the capable hands of Tidewater Rovers. First grade math tells us that this chassis was imported prior to the 25-year threshold most likely as a "car part", then re-mated with 110 body after arrival. Done all the time, I know, but NOT legit by any stretch.

    I am NOT a rover expert (in fact I'm a newbie), but have traded vintage cars (including grey-market European cars) for years. I am NOT an attorney but I have spoken to numerous experts and attorneys (including Customs Brokers, Insurance Agents and others) and there is a HUGE problem with a lot of 110s in the states right now. People in the UK know it, "specialists" here know it and you better believe the Feds and insurance companies know it. The problem is somewhat unique to 110s because the NAS 90s are prevelant enough and the simple, modular construction of the 110 that has remained unchanged in 25+ years has led to a lot of "car parts" arriving in the states, only to re-emerge as a complete vehicle.

    CAVEAT EMPTOR my freinds.
    None of this matters if you're using it on a ranch in Colorado because the likelihood of anyone caring, let alone finding the vehicle is remote. So therefore, you should be paying used farm-tractor prices for these 110s, not discounted NAS Defender 110 prices.

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    the only way to get this truck legal would be to export it and re-import it sucessfully with a correct foreign registration. This cost would most likely exceed the value of the truck.
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    Drive it to Canada and I will register it here and then sell it to you for a $1.00 and then you can reimport it to the US all legal like it wouldn't be to difficult. We only have to have them be 15yrs old up here to be imported so if I had a bill of sale for the truck and it passes inspection it could be registered and then exported.
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    I have a chassis, VIN plate, and registration (1983) that are all matching serial #'s. Drive to Canada, and import back to US legally.

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    Default Is it still available?

    If so, could you send a link for more photos?

    Thanks

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    Hi all,
    Found this thread after entering the VIN of the 110 in question. I recently purchased this 110 from NC but I live in GA. It was sold as a parts vehicle, no motor or transmission. I installed both and am now driving this Beast!! I have the 110 registered and insured in GA as a 1985 110 which is what it is after some research of the VIN, and it was inspected by a law enforcement official (cop). I do not have a title, but in Georgia, you don't need one!!! Each state has its own rules and regulations.....Name:  IMG_0489.jpg
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    That 110 looks GREAT! What motor did you drop in to it?

    Brett
    Series 3 88 Diesel Soft Top
    Ex-Mod 110 Tdi

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    Nice, Im sure a lot of people were very nervous about buying that with out proper documentation. Glad to see you made it work. Awesome truck, glad its on the road and not a coke can now....
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    I agree. Awesome looking Rover!
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    Thanks Guys!!
    Moose I put a 2.5L turbo Diesel in it...

    John
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