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    I'm still not clear on whether the engine is a 2.5 diesel or a diesel engine originally from a series IIA (or a series 3 for that mater); Terms which are mutually-exclusive, as I don't believe the 2.5 was ever installed by the factory, in a Series rover...

    Series 3 2.5L Diesel (which I recently discovered is from a SIIA)
    --Mark

    1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

    0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
    (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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    A pic will tell all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by o2batsea View Post
    Diesels make smoke three ways. Too much fuel in the mix, too much engine oil in the mix and too much water (coolant) in the mix.
    Color is black, blue/grey, and white respectively; the color of the smoke helps in the diagnosis. The older the engine the more those three start to intermix, which can make it hard to pinpoint what to try to fix first. You should have a compression and leak down test done by a shop so that you can tell how healthy the rings pistons and valves are. If they are reasonably close to being right then you are probably looking at dirty injectors or overfueling, assuming the smoke is black-ish.
    If the smoke is blue or grey then you are consuming engine oil. That's worse as it means the rings or valve guides are worn out. Since you say it happens more at low speed that would be my first suspicion. Consider too that the thing probably hasn't been run all that much, so it may settle down some with more driving.
    Off road, you just put the truck in low low, and let it walk over stuff, keeping your foot off the loud pedal. The Series diesels really benefit from at least a rear locking diff, as they tend to have enough torque but the tires break loose.
    I suffered for ten years with one of those engines. I even rebuilt it, and it still was the slowest thing. Now running a 200tdi. All I can say is wow.
    I think that you are right about the oil consumption. The smoke does tend to be bluish and grey. I don't know if I have the funds for a compression test just yet ( Next semesters tuition is due soon) but if I can, I will try and find a shop. I also know that you are right in saying that it has just sat for a while, I was told by the previous owner that it was.
    I definitely want to get the 200tdi conversion, but again, currency is important for the exchange of goods and services.

    I am gonna go pop off a quick photo for you guys, but based on what I have read, and what I was told, and the research I have done, it is a 2.25 Series IIA diesel engine.
    '82 Series 3
    RHD Short wheelbase
    2.25 diesel

    '82 Series 3 County
    RHD, Short wheelbase
    200tdi

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    Quote Originally Posted by SafeAirOne View Post
    I'm still not clear on whether the engine is a 2.5 diesel or a diesel engine originally from a series IIA (or a series 3 for that mater); Terms which are mutually-exclusive, as I don't believe the 2.5 was ever installed by the factory, in a Series rover...
    that was a typo. totally meant 2.25
    '82 Series 3
    RHD Short wheelbase
    2.25 diesel

    '82 Series 3 County
    RHD, Short wheelbase
    200tdi

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    here ya go.
    so full engine compartment view
    down below the oil fill tube, where there is a build up of oil
    Top of motor, right side, more oil
    Again, forward lower left, more oil
    '82 Series 3
    RHD Short wheelbase
    2.25 diesel

    '82 Series 3 County
    RHD, Short wheelbase
    200tdi

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    To me, it looks like your typical valve cover leakage. In fact, I'd be happy if mine looked that nice.

    Using the old "trial and error" method, you may be able to clear up much of the smoking by adjusting the injector pump timing. Just need to find that sweet spot between smoking and knocking.
    --Mark

    1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

    0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
    (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SafeAirOne View Post
    To me, it looks like your typical valve cover leakage. In fact, I'd be happy if mine looked that nice.

    Using the old "trial and error" method, you may be able to clear up much of the smoking by adjusting the injector pump timing. Just need to find that sweet spot between smoking and knocking.
    Alright, I will put that on the list. Thanks much
    '82 Series 3
    RHD Short wheelbase
    2.25 diesel

    '82 Series 3 County
    RHD, Short wheelbase
    200tdi

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    Can of Mystry Oil or two can do wonders for stuck rings!!! run for a while with a couple of cans in, making sure to subtract from the oil pan accordingly, run for 500 or so miles then do an oil change and see if anything changes

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    Clean ! The HRC # would usually mean it's an early 2.25 Defender head, though it's interesting it has the early style glow plugs in it.
    Les Parker
    Tech. Support and Parts Specialist
    Rovers North Inc.

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    you couldn't have picked a better vehicle than a series rover! its the summer, take the top and doors off! mine barely has any paint but it can fit a whole bachelorette party... they all have their issues but get her going and worry about the cosmetics later. I've been very frusterated and down at times but just work your way through it and you'll be glad you did

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