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    Default Clutch questions

    Hi, new to the forum, have owned a 69 S2a 88 for about a year now and just starting to run in to issues. The clutch used to make my leg sore driving it but in the last 100 miles itís gotten super easy almost way too easy and Iím guessing the clutch is the issue? Any insight anyone can provide would be great.

    Thanks!

    Nick

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    Not sure I clarified, sorry, still figuring this forum out.... the pedal is super easy to push down. The clutch engages when itís close to the floor. It still works but Iím worried Iím going to get stranded somewhere..... so if itís the clutch that needs fixing just need some advice on where to get started. What it might be....Never worked on a clutch before.

    Nick

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    Have you checked your fluid level? Could be the master cylinder is leaking. Crawl underneath and look. I think its on the right side of the transmission.

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    thank you so much for the insight! So happy to feel supported! I know nothing mechanical about my rover yet, so this may be the first project to figure out! Such a cool community that rovers have. The fluid idea makes a lot of sense as its been progressively getting worse and a lowering fluid level is a logical conclusion. I'll get under there this weekend and see if I can figure out what I'm looking at......how to check the level, how to fill it, etc.....

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    First thing to do is buy a manual of some kind like Haynes.

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    ok, checked the reservoir and sure enough, its almost empty. So filled it up but still not getting any difference in the clutch pedal. Its like the first 80% of the pedal does nothing but the last 20% it engages just fine. Springs back just fine though. I got under the vehicle and couldn't see any broken pins. Clearly a leak though as everything has a light coat of oil on it. Not sure where its coming from but hoping to at least get the vehicle operational so I don't get stranded somewhere... so not sure where to go from here? Was going to clean it all up this weekend to see if I could spot the leak. Wondering where to bleed from if maybe thats what i need to do to recharge the system a bit?Click image for larger version. 

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    ok, so happy to get this problem resolved! so the fix was there was a bolt on the master cylinder that connects to the pedal that had worked its way loose almost to the point it was falling off. After fixing this and putting the master cynlinder back together, it seems like its back to new again! Turns out the clutch "slipping" wasn't really an issue at all and seemed "tight" again after the fix. Going to watch it closely to make sure nothing is leaking. Seems ok now, but there was fluid loss before, so I think there still might be a leak somewhere. But its driving like a tank again, so very happy. Thank you so much for everyone that contributed to helping out! Could not have done it without the community support!

    very grateful,

    Nick
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    Nick Hauck
    '69 S2A 88 RHD

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    in the future: since that resevour doesn't take much fluid you can run synthetic in it, it won't absorb moisture ........ at least use dot 4.
    and when you bleed it make sure you're on level ground ..... as per prior: if the slave leaks, it goes inside the bell housing and you'll have to undo the drain plug for the bell housing to get it out. This is something we all need to do as you get water and all manner of krap in there. I just leave mine out as the rear main leaks and the xmission ........ and and and !!

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    well, I'm stumped on this one. I got in and cleaned everything up so it was like new to try and spot any leaks. unloaded about 3 cans of brake-clean and engine cleaner to freshen it up. Then I bled the clutch (thanks for the help on this one!) and it was a bit better, but still not great. So I checked any linkage underneath and it all looked ok from what I could tell. So now I'm thinking that the master or the slave one of the two is bad. the slave seems to connect ok on the last 20% of the pedal which makes me believe that air is still somehow in there, but I cleaned it, bled the line, ran it around about 50 miles, then looked for leaks and I can't spot any. The reservoir is still full. So i'm stumped. To make things worse, the gears used to connect but now they are "slipping" when I try and connect. So I'm thinking that maybe its something like a pressure plate or something like that actually on the clutch itself. Not sure if there is a way to test individual parts to see if they are working? My "system" has an issue but don't know how to troubleshoot at this point.
    Nick Hauck
    '69 S2A 88 RHD

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    Best way to check if your clutch is slipping is to drive uphill in 4th gear and step on the gas hard. If the revs shoot up but you dont accelerate then time for a new clutch disc and pressure plate. Bleeding clutches can be tricky sometimes. Best to have someone depress clutch then close bleed screw before releasing. Repeat as long as it takes to get a good pedal making sure to top up the reservoir.

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