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  • morgant
    1st Gear
    • Jun 2009
    • 170

    Diesel conversion won't start

    I'm sure I can come up with plenty of excuses as to why I "didn't have time" to just get out and start my '82 Series III 88" w/the 2.8L Daihatsu diesel conversion in the last month (or more? When was the last time I started it?!), but it's just not worth it. I've let it sit too long and now it won't start. Doh!

    I know most of you aren't going to be able to help with this particular diesel engine, but what's the general procedure for troubleshooting this? This is my first diesel, so I apologize in advance for being completely ignorant.

    Could the diesel in my tank or lines have soured? Clogged injectors or something? Also, the last time I did start it I noticed that the "cold start" light didn't come on when I held down the button, but it did start fine. I had the dash/instrument panel out looking at how hard it would be to replace my speedometer cable prior to noticing the issue, so could I have knocked something and now my glow plugs aren't warming it up. I didn't think it'd start without the glow plugs though (esp. since I was running it about once a week).

    I took my dash apart and peeked at the connections for the cold start button and lamp, but didn't see anything glaringly obvious. I'll borrow a multimeter and double check things this week, but any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
    rikuwoiku — to travel overland.
    1982 Series III 88" (RHD w/2.8L Daihatsu diesel)
    2002 Discovery II SE

    CentreSteer.com — A podcast by, for, and about Land Rover owners. (Panelist & Content Producer)

    SeriesParts.com — A master list of parts, part suppliers (our gracious hosts included), and repair shops for Series Land Rovers.
  • SalemRover
    3rd Gear
    • Aug 2007
    • 310

    #2
    Approach it similar to a gas engine. Is their anything coming out of the tailpipe? If yes then it should be a white smoke. That would let you know the fuel delivery system is ok. If it is white smoke are you sure your glow plugs are working?

    If you dont get anything in the exhaust pipe then I would look for the fuel cutoff system and given your recent search behind the dash I would reckon it uses and electronic shutoff and you simply knocked the power out.

    Good Luck!

    -Jason

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    • KevinNY
      4th Gear
      • Oct 2006
      • 484

      #3
      Do you hear the fuel stop solenoid click when you turn the key to the on position? Have someone turn the key while you listen for it, it is on top of the injection pump and needs 12v ingnition switched for the truck to run.
      The Goat, 2.8 Daihatsu Td, '73 coil conversion

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      • 4flattires
        4th Gear
        • Aug 2007
        • 424

        #4
        Assuming your motor is turning over, but not firing up.

        1. Validate your glow plugs are getting juice.

        2. Does it fire up on starting fluid (or WD40)? I know, thousands of folks will chime in about not using it, others will swear by it. Just see if it run. Do a google search on the topic to satisfy yourself.

        3. Diesel is pretty hard to sour. Remember, its really only oil lit up by ultra high compression. I have tractors with 20y/o diesel in them and they run just fine.

        Jeff
        64 SIIa 109 all stock
        69 SIIa 88 all stock
        Old tractors
        New Harleys
        Old trucks

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        • scott
          Overdrive
          • Oct 2006
          • 1226

          #5
          have you checked to see if the dzl pump needs primed. i'd have to do this when ever i ran my volvo dzl past empty.
          '64 Series IIA 88 Canvas Tilt
          '68 Series IIA RHD Ambulance
          '76 Spitfire 1500
          '07 LR3 (Series Recovery Vehicle)

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          • morgant
            1st Gear
            • Jun 2009
            • 170

            #6
            Thanks for all the great suggestions! I am getting white smoke, so I'll continue pursuing the glow plug theory. I definitely must've knocked something one of the times I had the dash open.
            rikuwoiku — to travel overland.
            1982 Series III 88" (RHD w/2.8L Daihatsu diesel)
            2002 Discovery II SE

            CentreSteer.com — A podcast by, for, and about Land Rover owners. (Panelist & Content Producer)

            SeriesParts.com — A master list of parts, part suppliers (our gracious hosts included), and repair shops for Series Land Rovers.

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            • SafeAirOne
              Overdrive
              • Apr 2008
              • 3435

              #7
              The heater plugs are usually controlled through a relay, so you should be able to trace it backward from the plugs to the relay (big wires) then from the relay to the instrument panel (small wires).

              I can't access my SIII instrument panel without popping the warning/main beam indicator lamps out of place every time. You probably just disconnected a wire somewhere back there.
              --Mark

              1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

              0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
              (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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              • morgant
                1st Gear
                • Jun 2009
                • 170

                #8
                I got back into town last night while there were a few hours of daylight remaining and opened up the dash again. I initially couldn't find a contact missing a connection, but once I started exploring the wiring I did discover a single wire that was obviously wouldn't reach the distance I had pulled the dash out. A few minutes of searching showed a contact on the cold start button that was nearly invisible.

                Reconnected, switched the ignition into the on position, and pressed the cold start button. There was the click of the solenoid giving power to the glow plugs and the cold start light lit up. Let go of the cold start button, turned the ignition to the start position and it fired right up.

                Checked a few more connections. Put my dash back together. Drove it around the block for the first time in months!

                Many thanks all!
                rikuwoiku — to travel overland.
                1982 Series III 88" (RHD w/2.8L Daihatsu diesel)
                2002 Discovery II SE

                CentreSteer.com — A podcast by, for, and about Land Rover owners. (Panelist & Content Producer)

                SeriesParts.com — A master list of parts, part suppliers (our gracious hosts included), and repair shops for Series Land Rovers.

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                • 4flattires
                  4th Gear
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 424

                  #9
                  The circle of life is complete.

                  Jeff
                  64 SIIa 109 all stock
                  69 SIIa 88 all stock
                  Old tractors
                  New Harleys
                  Old trucks

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