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  • crankin
    5th Gear
    • Jul 2008
    • 696

    Leaking Wheel Cylinder

    I have a new front and rear rebuild kit form AB...to go along with my new brake MC and brake lines. After I bench bleed the MC and all four brakes...after driving a bit and applying the brakes i lose pressure. SO, i went back to the house and check. The rear left tire is covered in dot3. Checked the bleeder valve and everything is tight. Removed the brake drum and the wheel cylinder is leaking.

    I would think that its a faulty wheel cylinder...but this is the second one. The first one did the same thing. Whats going here? The other three are fine... just the rear left wheel cylinder.


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  • jac04
    Overdrive
    • Feb 2007
    • 1884

    #2
    Since the wheel cylinders are specific to each corner, I would say that you got 2 cylinders from a bad LH Rear batch - maybe the bores were machined too big.

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    • crankin
      5th Gear
      • Jul 2008
      • 696

      #3
      OK. I can handle that...seeing how AB replaced the first one for free. Could there have been anything that I would have done that would have caused this? It is pretty straight forward and simple to install these....but you never now.


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      • scott
        Overdrive
        • Oct 2006
        • 1226

        #4
        could it be that the drum has been turned until it's now out of specs? if the id of the drum is to great won't the wheel cylinder travel to far?
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        • crankin
          5th Gear
          • Jul 2008
          • 696

          #5
          They are new drums. And i have turned the spacing until it jsut touches the drums


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          • 4flattires
            4th Gear
            • Aug 2007
            • 424

            #6
            crankin, you may want to call AB and see if they have had issues with this part. It's easy enough to research with them, and they can with their vendor as well.


            Originally posted by scott
            could it be that the drum has been turned until it's now out of specs? if the id of the drum is to great won't the wheel cylinder travel to far?
            Scott, good thought, but highly doubtful. Even if you turned the drum waaaaaayyyyy over the limit, (say going to .180" vs .060" over) there is far too much wheel cylinder piston left in the w/cyl to allow the cup to get cock-eyed and leak.

            My vote is for a bad batch on something with a low production rate as this wheel cylinder.
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            • bkreutz
              4th Gear
              • Apr 2010
              • 408

              #7
              I'm inclined to think it's a part issue, seeing that you had no problems with the install method on the other wheels, can't imagine you'd do something "wrong" on the affected wheel.
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              • Sputnicker
                1st Gear
                • May 2009
                • 105

                #8
                "I have a new front and rear rebuild kit form AB"
                Sometimes a rebuild kit is not enough and you need a new wheel cylinder.

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                • siii8873
                  Overdrive
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1011

                  #9
                  I agree w/ sputnicker. I tried to rebuild a master cyl but the bore was in to bad condition and leaked after the rebuild. Assuming this cyl was rebuilt and not new. If new probably a bad part, not rocket science to install these.
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                  • SafeAirOne
                    Overdrive
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 3435

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sputnicker
                    Sometimes a rebuild kit is not enough and you need a new wheel cylinder.
                    I concur.

                    Also, did you say you were using DOT 3 brake fluid? I'd have used the Castrol LMA (available at PepBoys) that is recommended for series rover brake and clutch systems. There is debate as to whether there is any natural rubber left in rover brake and clutch systems nowdays, but you can roll the dice and use DOT 3 which may or may not destroy your rubber components or you can be safe and just use the Castrol LMA as recommended by the factory.
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                    (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                    • greenmeanie
                      Overdrive
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 1358

                      #11
                      Who manufactured the kit? If it had Britpart on the label then I'll bet that is your problem right there. Their seals are notoriously poor quality.

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                      • crankin
                        5th Gear
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 696

                        #12
                        Its not a rebuilt kit for wheel cylinders...it was new parts to rebuild the whole brake system. And I will second the britpart stuff...i have had the worst luck with them. The wheel cylinders are from another company though...

                        I'll call tomorrow and see what they say.


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                        • crankin
                          5th Gear
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 696

                          #13
                          New one is coming in the mail. We'll see what happens.


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                          • Andrew IIA
                            3rd Gear
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 327

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SafeAirOne
                            I concur.

                            Also, did you say you were using DOT 3 brake fluid? I'd have used the Castrol LMA (available at PepBoys) that is recommended for series rover brake and clutch systems. There is debate as to whether there is any natural rubber left in rover brake and clutch systems nowdays, but you can roll the dice and use DOT 3 which may or may not destroy your rubber components or you can be safe and just use the Castrol LMA as recommended by the factory.
                            I confess little knowledge of brake fluid specs, but my SIII manual specs DOT 3 as the proper stuff, so that's what I've been using.

                            ps. my SIIA has an SIII brake system.
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                            • SafeAirOne
                              Overdrive
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 3435

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Andrew IIA
                              ...my SIII manual specs DOT 3 as the proper stuff, so that's what I've been using.

                              ps. my SIIA has an SIII brake system.

                              Hmmm....
                              --Mark

                              1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                              0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                              (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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