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>>I don't get the impression Mike is doing that anymore. He used to, for >>sure. But most of his recent builds have been on proper 90's and 110's. >>Of course the cost probably prohibits too many people from hiring him to >>do this with any frequency though.
>“We still do it all the time…That is how the Beach Runners and such are >built. NAS 90s that are built up as 110s. We have a 90 to 130 BR coming >up this Spring, as well as a 90 to 110 BR next month.”
>“As far as DOT... everything you want to do is illegal basically. Us building >a 90 into a 110 is technically illegal as according to the DOT and Maine law >if you change the frame you must now apply for a new VIN and meet 2008 >regulations…Also if you restore a 110 to the level we do that is illegal >too…”
WOW…
How can ECR justify a major portion of its vehicles? ECR is admitting that many ECR vehicles are not legal yet in the past ECR has hounded other people for selling “illegal” vehicles. ECR is blatantly mentioning they are building illegal “beach runners.” I’d be mighty pissed if I bought something from ECR only to find it was a dodgy vehicle like some of the others (which are often a fraction of the ECR price) How do they justify the markup for a vehicle that even they admit is not legal? Any idiot with a spanner can reassemble a Defender- that’s why we love them. Let me guess, now that they don’t have the NAS 110/90 market wrapped up they want all the other imported vehicles classified illegal.
Now that 25-year-old Land Rovers - D90, D110 and D130 - are basically legit, we are going to get the vested interests trying to discredit others who are actually playing by the rules. Nobody has to spend 35k for a decent legit Defender. You can get one for less than half that. If you want it pimped to beach runner status or you want a killer turbo, you can get it upgraded for a few grand more. There is no secret, if it is 25 years old, fill out your paperwork and it is legit. Nothing illegal, no mystery from Maine to Montana (poor bat fastards in kalifornia might have problems though
If you want to upgrade it to a beach runner and sell it, that’s legit. Import that 300 TDi, TD5 or Puma 2.4 with 6-speed gearbox and pop her right in. Nothing ambiguous - it is legit. I’d like to hear from Mike why he can do it but nobody else can. Pity for all those who think they are still going to get 45k for a rusted NAS 110 or 60k for a recontorted NAS Defender with a supercharged 4.6 lump on a long chassis.
If somebody has a 110 with a 109 VIN it is fraud. If somebody has a ’93 or ‘98 110 with ambiguous paperwork it is most likely a fraud. Basically anybody selling a post 1984 Defender, -with the exception of a *bone stock* NAS Rover- is selling a song and dance including the vehicles from ECR as ECR has admitted. You can choose to believe the song and dance but cross your fingers that you don’t get challenged. I’d hate to be sitting on a ECR “beach runner” with an envious neighbor.
BTW - The DOT and EPA rules are bollocks but they make rules. Only a fool would justify them. It's just bureaucrats and businessmen trying to compromise on mediocrity. The USA does not have the safest or most economical cars on the road. Most other countries that can afford to pave their roads have more efficient and/or safer cars. Those who can’t afford to pave their roads drive Rovers at their own peril☺. A 2009 D90/D110 is safer, more environmentally friendly, more efficient, and all around more politically correct than a 1983 90/110, yet the ’83 is legal and the ’09 is not. No need to go into the hazards or environmental nightmares of series vehicles.
I own and drive vehicles more dangerous than a 2CV, including a few Rovers (even federalized!), and that’s my business. If I end up like a fly on my own windscreen… well I’ve got problems and the last of my worries is some prat suing me. If some idiot drives a 2CV into my Hummer, well then the 2CV owner has some problems and only a retard wouldn’t understand that driving a tin can into a brick is trouble. Get over it, if you own a Rover or 2CV and you are worried about safety than drive a Merc sedan or a Prius depending on your budget or righteousness. Don’t sue somebody else when you make a mess of yourself at an accident.
A 2CV or older Rover, Rolls Royce, Ferrari, VW, Mini, etc, are death traps which should be clear the moment you step into one. Most of my cars are death traps (Rovers and other odd old cars) and if I decide that’s the way I want to die (which is most likely because I don’t even maintain them) so be it. Lets get over the “Nanny State.” Anybody on a Series Land Rover list who lectures about safety is a prat and hypocrite. Sorry for sounding like a jerk but come on… safety lectures on a Series Land Rover list? What next, celibacy lectures on a girlie site? If you get your knickers in a twist over a few sods driving in unsafe Rovers than perhaps you should get off the road because they will be the least of your worries. One drunk in a street legal German sedan can make minced meat carnage out of most DOT approved vehicles on the road today. We won’t even mention the sober teenager in a Hummer that missed a turn who will be scrambled but his/her victim will be an omlet.
>“We still do it all the time…That is how the Beach Runners and such are >built. NAS 90s that are built up as 110s. We have a 90 to 130 BR coming >up this Spring, as well as a 90 to 110 BR next month.”
>“As far as DOT... everything you want to do is illegal basically. Us building >a 90 into a 110 is technically illegal as according to the DOT and Maine law >if you change the frame you must now apply for a new VIN and meet 2008 >regulations…Also if you restore a 110 to the level we do that is illegal >too…”
WOW…
How can ECR justify a major portion of its vehicles? ECR is admitting that many ECR vehicles are not legal yet in the past ECR has hounded other people for selling “illegal” vehicles. ECR is blatantly mentioning they are building illegal “beach runners.” I’d be mighty pissed if I bought something from ECR only to find it was a dodgy vehicle like some of the others (which are often a fraction of the ECR price) How do they justify the markup for a vehicle that even they admit is not legal? Any idiot with a spanner can reassemble a Defender- that’s why we love them. Let me guess, now that they don’t have the NAS 110/90 market wrapped up they want all the other imported vehicles classified illegal.
Now that 25-year-old Land Rovers - D90, D110 and D130 - are basically legit, we are going to get the vested interests trying to discredit others who are actually playing by the rules. Nobody has to spend 35k for a decent legit Defender. You can get one for less than half that. If you want it pimped to beach runner status or you want a killer turbo, you can get it upgraded for a few grand more. There is no secret, if it is 25 years old, fill out your paperwork and it is legit. Nothing illegal, no mystery from Maine to Montana (poor bat fastards in kalifornia might have problems though
If you want to upgrade it to a beach runner and sell it, that’s legit. Import that 300 TDi, TD5 or Puma 2.4 with 6-speed gearbox and pop her right in. Nothing ambiguous - it is legit. I’d like to hear from Mike why he can do it but nobody else can. Pity for all those who think they are still going to get 45k for a rusted NAS 110 or 60k for a recontorted NAS Defender with a supercharged 4.6 lump on a long chassis.If somebody has a 110 with a 109 VIN it is fraud. If somebody has a ’93 or ‘98 110 with ambiguous paperwork it is most likely a fraud. Basically anybody selling a post 1984 Defender, -with the exception of a *bone stock* NAS Rover- is selling a song and dance including the vehicles from ECR as ECR has admitted. You can choose to believe the song and dance but cross your fingers that you don’t get challenged. I’d hate to be sitting on a ECR “beach runner” with an envious neighbor.
BTW - The DOT and EPA rules are bollocks but they make rules. Only a fool would justify them. It's just bureaucrats and businessmen trying to compromise on mediocrity. The USA does not have the safest or most economical cars on the road. Most other countries that can afford to pave their roads have more efficient and/or safer cars. Those who can’t afford to pave their roads drive Rovers at their own peril☺. A 2009 D90/D110 is safer, more environmentally friendly, more efficient, and all around more politically correct than a 1983 90/110, yet the ’83 is legal and the ’09 is not. No need to go into the hazards or environmental nightmares of series vehicles.
I own and drive vehicles more dangerous than a 2CV, including a few Rovers (even federalized!), and that’s my business. If I end up like a fly on my own windscreen… well I’ve got problems and the last of my worries is some prat suing me. If some idiot drives a 2CV into my Hummer, well then the 2CV owner has some problems and only a retard wouldn’t understand that driving a tin can into a brick is trouble. Get over it, if you own a Rover or 2CV and you are worried about safety than drive a Merc sedan or a Prius depending on your budget or righteousness. Don’t sue somebody else when you make a mess of yourself at an accident.
A 2CV or older Rover, Rolls Royce, Ferrari, VW, Mini, etc, are death traps which should be clear the moment you step into one. Most of my cars are death traps (Rovers and other odd old cars) and if I decide that’s the way I want to die (which is most likely because I don’t even maintain them) so be it. Lets get over the “Nanny State.” Anybody on a Series Land Rover list who lectures about safety is a prat and hypocrite. Sorry for sounding like a jerk but come on… safety lectures on a Series Land Rover list? What next, celibacy lectures on a girlie site? If you get your knickers in a twist over a few sods driving in unsafe Rovers than perhaps you should get off the road because they will be the least of your worries. One drunk in a street legal German sedan can make minced meat carnage out of most DOT approved vehicles on the road today. We won’t even mention the sober teenager in a Hummer that missed a turn who will be scrambled but his/her victim will be an omlet.
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