Series III - THE EAGLE HAS LANDED!!!!!!

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  • knac1234
    4th Gear
    • Nov 2010
    • 442

    #16
    Gambrinus--Unfortunately, don't know many people about....especially that want to come over and play Rover! BUT, great idea. I will disconnect the fuel line at the carb and try cranking it (will put the line in a jam jar....if there is fuel in it, then that's that). I did clean out the sediment bowl when the pump was off during all the work I did (and replaced the filter and sealing ring), but another idea to check easily.

    Bmohan--Another great idea that I would not have thought of....the pick up line. No fuel filter (never was....but am going to add one now). I felt like I was on a mountain safari....bunch of deer walked by while I was stranded!!!!

    Keithg--I forgot the size of the gauges. You should have the oil pressure gauge in the same location on your 73 I think....the other 2 holes in the cluster are the same size as it. I was thinking the diaphragm also in the mech. pump.....rigging up the electric won't take long. May leave it in place, as it may help a bit with vapor lock I used to get.

    Thanks!

    Julian

    PS Any thoughts on the coolant leak??!! Tstat housing a good bet and redoing it with the permatex??
    Julian
    72 Series III NAS
    03 Disco
    04 Freelander (sold, but still running strong)
    2011 LR2 (Fuji White/Tan....per the wife )
    65 MGB / 73 MGBGT
    71 RHD Hillman Super Imp

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    • SafeAirOne
      Overdrive
      • Apr 2008
      • 3435

      #17
      I was thinking that the fuel bowl was being depleted too. I'd check how much fuel is in the bowl on the carb when it quits.
      --Mark

      1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

      0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
      (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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      • knac1234
        4th Gear
        • Nov 2010
        • 442

        #18
        Mark,

        For the rookie here, would something other than the items already noted cause an indequate amount of fuel in the fuel bowl?? I think the float controls the level of fuel in there, which was not altered at all during the course of my work.

        Thanks!
        Julian
        Julian
        72 Series III NAS
        03 Disco
        04 Freelander (sold, but still running strong)
        2011 LR2 (Fuji White/Tan....per the wife )
        65 MGB / 73 MGBGT
        71 RHD Hillman Super Imp

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        • Terrys
          Overdrive
          • May 2007
          • 1382

          #19
          Ice? i.e. frozen in bowl, blocking jet, line, filters........

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          • siii8873
            Overdrive
            • Jul 2007
            • 1013

            #20
            a bad coil can fool you. On an old cub I have it would run for about 15 mins and then die and then have the symptoms your noting. Replaced the coil and all was fine. I'd check fuel flow as noted but not totally rule out an electrical problem.
            THING 1 - 1973 88 SIII - SOLD
            THING 2 -1974 88 SIII Daily Driver - SOLD
            THING 3 - 1969 88 SIIA Bugeye Project
            THING 4 - 1971 109 SIIA ExMod - SOLD
            THING 5 - 1958 109 PU
            THING 6 - 1954 86" HT

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            • knac1234
              4th Gear
              • Nov 2010
              • 442

              #21
              Bob,

              Good point....happen to have plenty of coils floating about....will keep it in mind.

              Julian
              Julian
              72 Series III NAS
              03 Disco
              04 Freelander (sold, but still running strong)
              2011 LR2 (Fuji White/Tan....per the wife )
              65 MGB / 73 MGBGT
              71 RHD Hillman Super Imp

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              • SafeAirOne
                Overdrive
                • Apr 2008
                • 3435

                #22
                Originally posted by knac1234
                Mark,

                For the rookie here, would something other than the items already noted cause an indequate amount of fuel in the fuel bowl??
                A bit of gunk blocking the inlet valve on the bowl could restrict flow into the bowl. The fuel pump test could confirm that you're getting fuel up to the bowl at least.

                I don't use a carb, so I don't know if the ones that mate up to the 2.25 have a finger strainer on the carb's fuel inlet (that might be plugged) or not.

                I presume that you had this carb up and running on the rover before the overhaul so I won't offer up a misadjusted float in the bowl as a possible cause.
                --Mark

                1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                • knac1234
                  4th Gear
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 442

                  #23
                  Thanks Mark,

                  Yes, it ran great prior and did nothing to the carb. Will keep an eye on this thread and update it at the end of the weekend (hopefully with good news!). I will have to do the tstat housing tomorrow so that the gasket maker can dry overnight prior to me firing her up again.

                  Julian
                  Julian
                  72 Series III NAS
                  03 Disco
                  04 Freelander (sold, but still running strong)
                  2011 LR2 (Fuji White/Tan....per the wife )
                  65 MGB / 73 MGBGT
                  71 RHD Hillman Super Imp

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                  • bkreutz
                    4th Gear
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 408

                    #24
                    Another thing to think about is the condenser if you still have a conventional ignition in it. I've seen a bad condenser exhibit the exact conditions you describe. I've also come to the conclusion that most of the replacement condensers available today are of questionable quality so I've put Pertronix systems in all my cars with points ignition.
                    Gale Breitkreutz
                    '03 Disco
                    '74 Series III 88 (sold, 4/13)
                    '47 CJ2A

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                    • luckyjoe
                      3rd Gear
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 335

                      #25
                      Also check the compression fittings at the fuel pump lines. If they are even slightly loose you could be sucking air and not getting pump prime. THey you just ran-out the fuel in the carb bowl...
                      Tom P.
                      1965 exMoD 109
                      1995 RRC LWB w/EAS

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                      • milhouse
                        Low Range
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 41

                        #26
                        I hope this doesn't come across as an insult, but in the name of checking everything... you are sure you have enough fuel in the gas tank, right?

                        Beautiful job on the Rover!
                        ~Neil

                        1974 Series III 88
                        1955 Chevy 3200 truck

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                        • knac1234
                          4th Gear
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 442

                          #27
                          Dale--Good thought, but have a pertronix already

                          Luckyjoe & milhouse--Will check the fittings....possible. Gas....no offense....it's the easy stuff that trip you up, but there were a couple gallons in the tank plus I put a couple more in before that quarter mile. Thanks for the comments on the truck!

                          Heading over to the shop now for round 1!!

                          Julian
                          Julian
                          72 Series III NAS
                          03 Disco
                          04 Freelander (sold, but still running strong)
                          2011 LR2 (Fuji White/Tan....per the wife )
                          65 MGB / 73 MGBGT
                          71 RHD Hillman Super Imp

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                          • knac1234
                            4th Gear
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 442

                            #28
                            All,

                            Thanks for the help.....the fuel problem is solved.

                            To make a long story short, I first checked to make sure the fuel lines were not kinked in any way; verified the sediment bowl was clean (and it had fuel in it); turned the truck over with the fuel line in the jam jar.....fuel dispersed, so the pump was OK. At that point, pulled the top off the Weber carb, and saw a lot of sediment in the fuel bowl. Cleaned it out, pulled the jets out and cleaned them, then installed an additional inline fuel filter prior to restarting.

                            Ran great.....got it up to 60mph on a back road for a test Forunately/unfortunately, that pesky coolant leak showed up....was able to get back to the garage....it is (pretty sure) not at the tstat triangular housing part, but on the side part of that same housing. I also think the (new) stainless bolt broke in the housing making it loose. So, anyway, I THINK success might be on tomorrow's horizon!!

                            Julian
                            Julian
                            72 Series III NAS
                            03 Disco
                            04 Freelander (sold, but still running strong)
                            2011 LR2 (Fuji White/Tan....per the wife )
                            65 MGB / 73 MGBGT
                            71 RHD Hillman Super Imp

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                            • SafeAirOne
                              Overdrive
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 3435

                              #29
                              ..
                              --Mark

                              1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                              0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                              (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                              • yorker
                                Overdrive
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 1635

                                #30
                                Originally posted by knac1234
                                All,

                                Thanks for the help.....the fuel problem is solved.

                                To make a long story short, I first checked to make sure the fuel lines were not kinked in any way; verified the sediment bowl was clean (and it had fuel in it); turned the truck over with the fuel line in the jam jar.....fuel dispersed, so the pump was OK. At that point, pulled the top off the Weber carb, and saw a lot of sediment in the fuel bowl. Cleaned it out, pulled the jets out and cleaned them, then installed an additional inline fuel filter prior to restarting.
                                What kind of a fuel filter are you using? Is your tank pretty old? This might end up being a re-occuring problem.
                                1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

                                Land Rover UK Forums

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