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  • REDrum
    1st Gear
    • Nov 2011
    • 175

    Roof Rack & RTT for SIII?

    Hola,

    I've been searching for pictures and discussion on Roof Top Tents for Series 88 and can't find much, near nothing. Is doing so some sort of Landy taboo?

    I'm considering some sort of flat full length rack (i.e. Front Runner) with a 1400 series EZ Awn.

    Someone has to have have done it and has some photos they could share?
    The Toltec Coffee fleet....
    96 FZJ80: 3XL, lifted, and shaved
    94 FZJ 80: our Costa Rican coffee and surf mobile
    70 Series IIA 88: After 18 months of wrenching, its alive and legal to drive!
    70 Series IIA 88: in US on H-1B visa
    56 Series I 86: a whole new type of rover hell....
  • Ncrover725
    2nd Gear
    • Jun 2011
    • 259

    #2
    Expedition portal forum

    I am looking at doing the same to my 11a 109 in support of a trip from florida to Belize. The forums on the expedition portal site have some guys who are pretty smart on all this stuff. They also have some used stuff for sale. Good luck with everything!
    1971 Ex Mod IIA 109
    1985 D110
    1998 D1 (Sold)

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    • I Leak Oil
      Overdrive
      • Nov 2006
      • 1796

      #3
      Old news but you might get something from it.....


      The series hard tops don't hold up well with large roof weight and rough driving surfaces with the tradtional gutter mount roof rack. They tend to want to crack as proven in the trip sighted above.

      I'm not a fan of racks or RTT's on a series truck but expedition portal is a good source for info. Just be aware, you will have to dig through lots of opinion based info to find hard facts though.
      Jason
      "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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      • REDrum
        1st Gear
        • Nov 2011
        • 175

        #4
        Originally posted by I Leak Oil
        The series hard tops don't hold up well with large roof weight and rough driving surfaces with the tradtional gutter mount roof rack. They tend to want to crack as proven in the trip sighted above.
        Thanks, this is the type of info I was looking for, and was afraid of... I suspect that why I stumbled across a few photos of exterior cages on 88s.
        The Toltec Coffee fleet....
        96 FZJ80: 3XL, lifted, and shaved
        94 FZJ 80: our Costa Rican coffee and surf mobile
        70 Series IIA 88: After 18 months of wrenching, its alive and legal to drive!
        70 Series IIA 88: in US on H-1B visa
        56 Series I 86: a whole new type of rover hell....

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        • SafeAirOne
          Overdrive
          • Apr 2008
          • 3435

          #5
          Originally posted by REDrum
          Thanks, this is the type of info I was looking for, and was afraid of...

          If you're not planniing to WAAAAAY overload the racks and drive EXTREME off-road for several weeks, then I wouldn't sweat it too much. 99% of us will never use our Series Rovers in ways that will ever cause damage with a roof rack.
          --Mark

          1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

          0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
          (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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          • TeriAnn
            Overdrive
            • Nov 2006
            • 1087

            #6
            Originally posted by Ncrover725
            The forums on the expedition portal site have some guys who are pretty smart on all this stuff.
            But they are mostly not in the Land Rover section of the expo site. There tends to be a lot of vocal armchair self proclaimed experts in that section.

            I agree with the previous posting saying the tops are not rugged enough for heavy loads off road. I've never seen a factory spec for a series truck though. I do know that people with loaded roof racks attached to the gutter over the front doors sometimes break windscreen glass from the off road flexing. That's why the better roof racks have long front legs that attach to the windscreen mounts on the top of the bulkhead. To minimize weight on the windscreen.

            One thing that people have not mentioned yet is what it will do to your centre of gravity. Those tents are not light weight nor is a full length steel roof rack strong enough to handle a roof rack. Series trucks tend to be tippy even without a roof rack. But it is a judgement call depending on how much off roading you will be doing and what you are willing to put up with. Just get a weight for a tent before you buy.

            If it were me and I didn't have the Dormobile, I'd look into a roof rack with a side mounted awning that has a detachable wall. Not as much weight on the roof, roomier, more versatile and no accidents if nature calls in the middle of the night. You can buy fold up cot to allow you to sleep off the ground and an air mattress and be cozy for the night.
            -

            Teriann Wakeman_________
            Flagstaff, AZ.




            1960 Land Rover Dormobile, owned since 1978

            My Land Rover web site

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            • msggunny
              5th Gear
              • Jan 2007
              • 621

              #7
              Put one of these up there if your not worried about room.



              If your looking into "expedition" stuff, i would think that lighter is better. Even if your not carrying it on your back. Thats just me though.

              I would be more than happy with one of these, the wife may not be so much though.....

              I have this for my solo outings: http://www.iguanallc.com/BedNet/DOD_BedNet.html

              As long as its not arctic cold, and I use a poncho to keep rain off.
              First but gone: 91 3 door Disco "White Rhino"
              77 Series III 88 ex MoD "Shongololo"
              Gone and I miss her: 97 D1 5 speed
              04 DII
              08 D3 (LR3)

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              • TeriAnn
                Overdrive
                • Nov 2006
                • 1087

                #8
                Anther thought is to keep the weight down inside the truck while you are driving.


                Add a roof rack, a sheet of plywood and just pitch a light weight tent on the plywood. Store the tent down below. You keep the weight down while traveling and have a tent on the roof. Probably way lighter than a roof top tent.
                -

                Teriann Wakeman_________
                Flagstaff, AZ.




                1960 Land Rover Dormobile, owned since 1978

                My Land Rover web site

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                • I Leak Oil
                  Overdrive
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1796

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SafeAirOne
                  If you're not planniing to WAAAAAY overload the racks and drive EXTREME off-road for several weeks, then I wouldn't sweat it too much. 99% of us will never use our Series Rovers in ways that will ever cause damage with a roof rack.
                  Agreed Mark, but I'd also add that 99% of the 99% don't really "need" a rack at all. Nothing wrong with having one but by the time you add a somewhat heavy RTT and all the other stuff up top they can get heavy and can contribute to damage.
                  Jason
                  "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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                  • badvibes
                    3rd Gear
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 364

                    #10
                    I'm no expert or ExPo whiz trekker. Just a guy who uses a RTT once or twice a year, longest was a 10 day stretch. I don't wheel my truck hard in these instances, more of a base camp situation.

                    Top heavy? Yeah you feel the weight up there, @ 125 lbs, but not too tippy feeling. More of a wind drag issue. A Rover has the aerodynamics of a brick. The RTT makes it like 2 bricks stacked atop each other.

                    I use Thule cross bars with the super high foot mounts. No problems so far but I only keep the RTT up there when I need it. I like the ability to remove the tent and store it in my garage when not in use. 2 guys can remove or install the RTT in 5 minutes.

                    I really like the room inside the RTT. I added an extra foam pad, really comfy. If I'm tenting it for a week or more it works well for me and my 50 year old back. Yeah a bit of inconvenience to climb in and out but I'll put up with that for the comfort.

                    This year I am going back to Utah to do the Hole in the Rock Trail. Will have my full top switched to a pick up cab I've purchased. I'm going to figure out a system to mount the RTT no higher than the cab which will have the advantage that I can park the Rover in my garage with the tent on it. As it is now it's way too tall for the garage. The switch to a pick up cab is just cause I like the idea and want too. For everything I've done so far the full top has worked fine with the set up I have.

                    Just some feed back from a RTT user, not an expert, YMMV.





                    Last edited by badvibes; 01-23-2012, 10:22 AM.
                    1964 Series 2A SW, LHD mostly stock, often runs!

                    1991 Range Rover Hunter

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                    • greenmeanie
                      Overdrive
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 1358

                      #11
                      Never mind this RTT stuff. I want to see your kitchen. That looks fun.

                      For accomodation I just carry a dome tent. It takes 5 mintues to set up and I'm done. It probably doesn't help with your design but it keeps the whole camping with the truck thing as simple and minimalist as I can make it.

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                      • badvibes
                        3rd Gear
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 364

                        #12
                        Been haulin' that all over creation for more than 20 years. Built it with a specific goal in mind. If I'm car camping I wanted a self contained, all inclusive kitchen. Stove, utensils, pots and pans, yadda yadda. There have been times here at home that I've run out of something and I just step into the garage and pop open the camp box and get what I need. Saves a trip to the store.

                        Had a couple of friends over for dinner one time. Terrilynn likes to cook with wood utensils. All I have in the kitchen is stainless steel so I say hang on a minute and go in the garage. I have wood stuff in the camp box. But before I go back in the house I hook up my circular saw and grab a big hammer. I run the saw off and on a few times and bang my workbench loudly with the hammer. My friends inside the house can hear this. A moment later I step back inside and hold up the wooden spoon desired and say "will this do?" Got a pretty good laugh.....
                        1964 Series 2A SW, LHD mostly stock, often runs!

                        1991 Range Rover Hunter

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                        • badvibes
                          3rd Gear
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 364

                          #13
                          Originally posted by greenmeanie
                          For accomodation I just carry a dome tent. It takes 5 mintues to set up and I'm done. It probably doesn't help with your design but it keeps the whole camping with the truck thing as simple and minimalist as I can make it.
                          I agree that's the way to roll sometimes.....

                          1964 Series 2A SW, LHD mostly stock, often runs!

                          1991 Range Rover Hunter

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                          • I Leak Oil
                            Overdrive
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 1796

                            #14
                            Originally posted by badvibes
                            I agree that's the way to roll sometimes.....

                            And conversly there are times I would have given up a body part for an RTT or a rack to get my tent off the ground!
                            Jason
                            "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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                            • stomper
                              5th Gear
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 889

                              #15
                              Sort of like this weekend in Vermont

                              Bad gas mileage gets you to some of the greatest places on earth.

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