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  • TedW
    5th Gear
    • Feb 2007
    • 887

    Towing a boat - Questions and concerns:

    Every spring I tow a boat from my house to a boatyard about 5 miles away. I then tow it back in the fall. The total weight of the boat and trailer is +/- 4,500 lb. I started doing this a few years ago.

    The route has a few hills, but nothing drastic.

    I am concerned about stress on my drivetrain. Should I be? What damage can I be doing, if any?

    I have a 1970 88 with a standard rear axle.

    I pulled the axles last month and could see no twisting anywhere. I did see some wear on one side of each of the splines: is this normal for a pair of 42 year-old axles? Or am I doing bad stuff by towing this boat?

    Thanks in advance for any / all responses - Ted
  • westcoastkevin
    1st Gear
    • Jan 2011
    • 162

    #2
    Sounds fine to me. Keep towing it. When I think about the 3 categories below. i expect pulling it out at the ramp is the hardest part of the job.A bit of spline wear is perfectly normal with age.

    Drawbar pull.
    Tongue weight.
    Braking.

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    • keithg
      Low Range
      • Oct 2011
      • 68

      #3
      That's a good size boat at 4500lbs. and I'm sure it looks like quite a sight pulling it! How well does it stop it? I hadn't considered towing my boat with my '73 S3 because I thought it would be to much for it but it's about the same weight as yours.
      Keith G
      Butler, PA
      '73 Series III
      A bunch of old fords

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      • LR Max
        3rd Gear
        • Feb 2010
        • 315

        #4
        Its fine. I used to tow a Nissan 240SX on a heavy as heck steel trailer with my 109.

        Key thing is braking distance. I had excellent luck towing at 6AM in the morning. No one out and was able to pass through all the lights.

        Didn't use overdrive, so top speed was limited but like you, I was only towing 10 miles each way so I could spare the extra 5 minutes or whatever.

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        • TedW
          5th Gear
          • Feb 2007
          • 887

          #5
          Originally posted by westcoastkevin
          Sounds fine to me. Keep towing it. When I think about the 3 categories below. i expect pulling it out at the ramp is the hardest part of the job.A bit of spline wear is perfectly normal with age.
          Kevin: Important omitted detail: I just drive it to the boatyard and leave it, and then drive back at the end of the season and haul it away; I don't launch it or pull it out of the water.

          Keith: It's a 21' Wellcraft with a Suzuki 175 4-stroke. I'm estimating the weight.

          No problems braking - so far! I keep my wits about me and don't go over 35 mph. I make it a point of going SLOW downhill.
          Last edited by TedW; 03-12-2012, 08:02 PM. Reason: punctuation....

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          • NickDawson
            5th Gear
            • Apr 2009
            • 707

            #6
            I tow a boat about 3,500lbs with my III and have not had any issues.... knock wood.

            Like you, keep it slow and take it easy. I did get stopped at a red light in the city once on a steep hill where the guy behind me decided to get a close to the prop of the boat as he could. Besides that stressful start, I haven't really had any challenges.

            My biggest concerns are a) brakes and b) jack-knifing. The boat is longer than the 88" by a good measure. But, so far, it seems to work fine.

            There have been times when I've needed to move it 45-60 minutes on the highway....I haven't used the rover for those trips, although I'd like to. I suspect it's just not worth the risk (mainly to me and anyone else in the Rover).

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            • keithg
              Low Range
              • Oct 2011
              • 68

              #7
              The next time you tow it take a few pictures....it would be great to see it! I plan on using my S3 to tow/launch my jet ski but I'm going to leave boat duties to my truck. I only leave it in the water for the weekend so I think it would be to much for the Rover on the launch ramp. It's a 22' Chris Craft with a 225hp 5.0L Ford EFI.
              Keith G
              Butler, PA
              '73 Series III
              A bunch of old fords

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              • TedW
                5th Gear
                • Feb 2007
                • 887

                #8
                Originally posted by keithg
                The next time you tow it take a few pictures....it would be great to see it! I plan on using my S3 to tow/launch my jet ski but I'm going to leave boat duties to my truck. I only leave it in the water for the weekend so I think it would be to much for the Rover on the launch ramp. It's a 22' Chris Craft with a 225hp 5.0L Ford EFI.
                Keith: This is kind of an oblique shot from last fall - all I had. I'll take pics next month when I drag it to the boatyard.

                Ted

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                • RNZack
                  Administrator
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 426

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TedW
                  Keith: This is kind of an oblique shot from last fall - all I had. I'll take pics next month when I drag it to the boatyard.

                  Ted
                  Ah! That looks awesome. The boat is huge compared to the Series!

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                  • TedW
                    5th Gear
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 887

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ThePhotographer
                    Ah! That looks awesome. The boat is huge compared to the Series!
                    Yes, it is huge! I'll get some nice profile shots next month. Pretty funny to see the setup all in a row.

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                    • keithg
                      Low Range
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 68

                      #11
                      It's like the "little engine that could"! haha
                      Keith G
                      Butler, PA
                      '73 Series III
                      A bunch of old fords

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                      • yorker
                        Overdrive
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 1635

                        #12
                        fwiw:
                        1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

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                        • TeriAnn
                          Overdrive
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 1087

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TedW
                          I have a 1970 88 with a standard rear axle.

                          I pulled the axles last month and could see no twisting anywhere. I did see some wear on one side of each of the splines: is this normal for a pair of 42 year-old axles?
                          Personally, I'd swap in a new pair of rear axles just to be safe. 42 years is a long time to go on a pair of 10 spline axles. specially when they tend to break at around 50,000 miles.

                          You might be fine with the old ones but unbroken axles are real easy to replace and it could be cheap insurance.
                          -

                          Teriann Wakeman_________
                          Flagstaff, AZ.




                          1960 Land Rover Dormobile, owned since 1978

                          My Land Rover web site

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                          • TedW
                            5th Gear
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 887

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TeriAnn
                            Personally, I'd swap in a new pair of rear axles just to be safe. 42 years is a long time to go on a pair of 10 spline axles. specially when they tend to break at around 50,000 miles.

                            You might be fine with the old ones but unbroken axles are real easy to replace and it could be cheap insurance.
                            Agreed. My long-term goal is to replace the whole lot with a Salisbury.

                            Here's a question: Are there any known quality differences between the various replacement axles available? I'm thinking in particular of our host's Proline axles vs. Genuine.

                            Any opinions are appreciated.

                            Ted

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                            • yorker
                              Overdrive
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 1635

                              #15
                              It used to be that genuine axles broke clean and aftermarket ones wouldn't which can make a difference in how easy they are to remove when they do break. I don't know if it is still the case though. Keep your old ones for spares.
                              Last edited by yorker; 03-14-2012, 02:31 PM.
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