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  • ducttape
    1st Gear
    • Feb 2007
    • 169

    Fuel gauge issue

    This is new to me as my old Series III either read full, or empty. My 67 Series IIA reads half full and works gradually towards empty. When I switch tanks, that one reads the same too.

    Any ideas? Driving me crazy, spending $45 and seeing half a tank of gas.

    T I A

    David
    1967 Series IIA 88
  • Whiterabbit
    Low Range
    • Feb 2012
    • 66

    #2
    Sounds like the sender maybe? Sticking,bad float or worn out.
    I've got a SIII with L&R tanks and my gauge wouldn't read correctly until I replaced the voltage stabilizer behind the speedo.
    1978 MOD 109

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    • SafeAirOne
      Overdrive
      • Apr 2008
      • 3435

      #3
      Originally posted by ducttape
      Driving me crazy, spending $45 and seeing half a tank of gas.
      Isn't that normal??--It's what I see every time I put die$el in my 109.


      I had the same problem a long time ago (1/2 on the gauge= full tank). I'd recommend replacing the voltage stabilizer, since that and the gauge are the only significant shared items in the fuel indicating system between 2 tanks with bad readings.
      --Mark

      1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

      0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
      (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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      • Partsman
        3rd Gear
        • May 2011
        • 329

        #4
        Better than what mine reads E=Full the gradually works it's way to F=Empty I got so frustrated, I opened the guage up and painted the two letters so the F looks like an E and the E looks like an F.


        Series 2 Club Forum


        Andy The Landy Shop

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        • LaneRover
          Overdrive
          • Oct 2006
          • 1743

          #5
          Originally posted by Partsman
          Better than what mine reads E=Full the gradually works it's way to F=Empty I got so frustrated, I opened the guage up and painted the two letters so the F looks like an E and the E looks like an F.
          Mine does that because it used to be a positive ground and is now a negative ground. I figure that 'F' means Fill the tank. 'E' means Ever more miles to go.

          I also like to tell myself that it is a theft deterrent - or should I say a deterrent to a thief keeping the vehicle.
          1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
          1965 109 SW - nearly running well
          1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
          1969 109 P-UP

          http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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          • Jim-ME
            Overdrive
            • Oct 2006
            • 1379

            #6
            Just switch the wires and it will read correctly.
            Jim

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            • Alaskan Rover
              Low Range
              • Apr 2010
              • 54

              #7
              Sender unit on a IIA is a two part system. A rod with float hangs down into tank...this rod might need to be re-bent to reflect reading full w/ a full tank and empty w/ empty tank. Easy access to sender unit on top of tank.

              Other possibility might be the electro-sensor unit itself. This is a series of brass reeds (sort of looks like the reeds on the inside of a harmonica). A contact from the float rod runs up and down this series of reeds. The reeds are hooked up to electrical wires and the signal goes directly to fuel guage. Most likely your problem is here. I rebuilt this system of brass reeds and sensor unit myself on my Series IIA. That was 10 years ago of daily use...it's been working fine (knock on wood) ever since.

              Once you get it apart it is actually not as complex a sensor unit as it would seem.

              Good luck.

              --
              1970 Series IIA 88".,...the REAL Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

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              • LaneRover
                Overdrive
                • Oct 2006
                • 1743

                #8
                Originally posted by Jim-ME
                Just switch the wires and it will read correctly.
                Jim
                Not for me, I tried that. Switching the wires just pegged the gauge.
                1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
                1965 109 SW - nearly running well
                1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
                1969 109 P-UP

                http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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                • Partsman
                  3rd Gear
                  • May 2011
                  • 329

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LaneRover
                  Not for me, I tried that. Switching the wires just pegged the gauge.
                  Same here, when I inquired on the S2A forum, and posted pics, it turns out that mine has a mis-matched set old gauge, newer sending unit, at least that's what everyone over there is telling me. One of these days, I'll get around to replacing one or the other.


                  Series 2 Club Forum


                  Andy The Landy Shop

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                  • ducttape
                    1st Gear
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 169

                    #10
                    Where is the electro sensor? In the tank, or on the fire wall?

                    Thx

                    Originally posted by Alaskan Rover
                    Sender unit on a IIA is a two part system. A rod with float hangs down into tank...this rod might need to be re-bent to reflect reading full w/ a full tank and empty w/ empty tank. Easy access to sender unit on top of tank.

                    Other possibility might be the electro-sensor unit itself. This is a series of brass reeds (sort of looks like the reeds on the inside of a harmonica). A contact from the float rod runs up and down this series of reeds. The reeds are hooked up to electrical wires and the signal goes directly to fuel guage. Most likely your problem is here. I rebuilt this system of brass reeds and sensor unit myself on my Series IIA. That was 10 years ago of daily use...it's been working fine (knock on wood) ever since.

                    Once you get it apart it is actually not as complex a sensor unit as it would seem.

                    Good luck.

                    --
                    1967 Series IIA 88

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                    • mearstrae
                      5th Gear
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 592

                      #11
                      In the tank. Turn out the tank retainer ring and remove the float, rod and pick up together. It's not really a sensor it's a "Sweep Potentiometer" that is, as it sweeps, it changes resistance and reads on the gauge [kind of an ohm-meter]. Might just need a cleaning.

                      '95 R.R. Classic LWB
                      '76 Series III Hybrid 109
                      '70 Rover 3500S

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                      • mearstrae
                        5th Gear
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 592

                        #12
                        Woops it posted twice... In the tank. Turn out the tank retainer ring and remove the float, rod and pick up together. It's not really a sensor it's a "Sweep Potentiometer" that is, as it sweeps, it changes resistance and reads on the gauge [kind of an ohm-meter]. Might just need a cleaning.

                        '95 R.R. Classic LWB
                        '76 Series III Hybrid 109
                        '70 Rover 3500S

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