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  • hieronymusbotch
    Low Range
    • Jun 2012
    • 8

    New here. My truck is fuel starved again!

    Been in this position before. Driving along beautifully when for no apparent reason she starts to stutter and cuts out. Will restart for awhile but cuts out each time then eventually won't even try.

    Last time (a month ago) went through the entire fuel system even replaced my Weber carb with a new one to no avail. Finally replaced the new fuel pump (6months?) and bingo she starts up and runs better than ever for one month. Really, purring like a kitten, great mileage, running strong even on the highway.

    Just did it again yesterday. Towed back to the driveway. Gone through the fuel system again and everything checks out. Fuel pump again?

    Has anyone had issues with the new fuel pumps from our host? Could something in my system be weakening them?

    Thanks in advance for any help!
  • jonnyc
    1st Gear
    • Dec 2011
    • 176

    #2
    What do your tank innards and fuel pick-up tube look like? Do you have any filters in the line? How long does it run before it dies?

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    • siii8873
      Overdrive
      • Jul 2007
      • 1013

      #3
      I'd check two things first. Make sure your fuel cap is venting. Next time it happens open your fuel cap and you might hear a vacuum. I had these exact symptoms after changing a fuel cap, chased it for a while and this was the cause.
      Make sure your fuel lines are not allowing air in on the suction side of the pump. I had this problem with a fuel change over valve. This caused more of a starting problem not a running problem.
      THING 1 - 1973 88 SIII - SOLD
      THING 2 -1974 88 SIII Daily Driver - SOLD
      THING 3 - 1969 88 SIIA Bugeye Project
      THING 4 - 1971 109 SIIA ExMod - SOLD
      THING 5 - 1958 109 PU
      THING 6 - 1954 86" HT

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      • 4flattires
        4th Gear
        • Aug 2007
        • 424

        #4
        Welcome to the board, but you have to help us out a bit here. If your hanging parts just to see if it solves the problem, please just send me your old parts.

        If your guessing fuel pump, and you say everything checks out, was that not checked? Post your test results please. Electric or mech? Does it fill up a soda can in 2 seconds? 20 seconds?

        What mods have you done to your truck?
        64 SIIa 109 all stock
        69 SIIa 88 all stock
        Old tractors
        New Harleys
        Old trucks

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        • hieronymusbotch
          Low Range
          • Jun 2012
          • 8

          #5
          Thanks, I checked the fuel tank and it's clean as a whistle. Same with the pickup tube. I disconnected the fuel lines and blew them out with a compressor. There's an inline filter between the fuel pump and the carb which I change regularly.

          It was running approx 30 seconds before crapping out but now it's not even firing. Turns over nice though.

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          • hieronymusbotch
            Low Range
            • Jun 2012
            • 8

            #6
            @ fourflats

            You may most certainly not have my old parts as I am hoping to build a second truck from them.

            No mods to speak of, The engine is a stock 2.25 petrol (5main bearing according to the serial number). Still looking for a soda can, I'll get back to you.

            @siii8873 I thought of that fuel cap and checked for suction as you suggested. None detected. I also tried running it with the cap off with no appreciable change. The fuel lines are new as of a month ago and I have checked all the hose connections several times. Will check the cap again though.

            I'm no mechanic, though I'm not completely lacking in experience. Thanks to everyone.

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            • gudjeon
              5th Gear
              • Oct 2006
              • 613

              #7
              I went through a couple of new fuel pumps only to find them all bunk. Went to an electric with a few mods and never looked back. I don't think its a problem with what the hosts supply. They seem to be non-functional no matter who sells them. I just know I don't want to rely on a part that I have to try several out before I find one that works. Especially when out in the sticks.

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              • hieronymusbotch
                Low Range
                • Jun 2012
                • 8

                #8
                Originally posted by siii8873
                I'd check two things first. Make sure your fuel cap is venting. Next time it happens open your fuel cap and you might hear a vacuum. I had these exact symptoms after changing a fuel cap, chased it for a while and this was the cause.
                Make sure your fuel lines are not allowing air in on the suction side of the pump. I had this problem with a fuel change over valve. This caused more of a starting problem not a running problem.
                Definitely not the fuel cap. Going to check the pipe connections at the fuel pump when this storm blows over. No visible leaks, but hey.

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                • 73series88
                  5th Gear
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 587

                  #9
                  if your pump is good i would check your condenser. i had one that would give the same symptoms.
                  brand new. put an old mga one in there and it was fine. they dony make parts like they used to.
                  good luck and welcome
                  aaron
                  73 series III 88 2.5 na diesel daily driver
                  67 series 2a 88 RHD sold
                  88 RRC sold
                  60 mga coupe

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                  • Whiterabbit
                    Low Range
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 66

                    #10
                    Ha! Was just gonn'a say that. Ignition problems look alot like fuel issues. Pull a plug and see if you have a strong spark. Coil overheating? Had that problem in a Fiat. Acted like it was running outt'a fuel after 30 min, new coil and she screams now.
                    1978 MOD 109

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                    • jonnyc
                      1st Gear
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 176

                      #11
                      Mine would run for about 15 minutes and die. I replaced the Crane electronic unit and it's been fine for about a year. Took me a few years to figure that one out!

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                      • PH4
                        3rd Gear
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 375

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 73series88
                        if your pump is good i would check your condenser. i had one that would give the same symptoms.
                        brand new. put an old mga one in there and it was fine. they dony make parts like they used to.
                        good luck and welcome
                        aaron
                        I had a condenser that did the same thing. Gave the same signs as a fuel problem.

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                        • bfishel60
                          Low Range
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 11

                          #13
                          Mine wasn't the condenser but the braided wire to the condenser. Sometimes it would get pulled apart and sometimes it worked fine.
                          The truck would restart fine sometime, other times it would take several tries.
                          Bill F

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                          • hieronymusbotch
                            Low Range
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 8

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 73series88
                            if your pump is good i would check your condenser. i had one that would give the same symptoms.
                            brand new. put an old mga one in there and it was fine. they dony make parts like they used to.
                            good luck and welcome
                            aaron
                            Originally posted by Whiterabbit
                            Ha! Was just gonn'a say that. Ignition problems look alot like fuel issues. Pull a plug and see if you have a strong spark. Coil overheating? Had that problem in a Fiat. Acted like it was running outt'a fuel after 30 min, new coil and she screams now.
                            Originally posted by jonnyc
                            Mine would run for about 15 minutes and die. I replaced the Crane electronic unit and it's been fine for about a year. Took me a few years to figure that one out!
                            Originally posted by PH4
                            I had a condenser that did the same thing. Gave the same signs as a fuel problem.
                            Originally posted by bfishel60
                            Mine wasn't the condenser but the braided wire to the condenser. Sometimes it would get pulled apart and sometimes it worked fine.
                            The truck would restart fine sometime, other times it would take several tries.
                            Bill F
                            Yup, thank guys. I began to question the ignition system when it would no longer fire up at all and had ordered a new condenser and points along with wires and new plugs for good measure as these are all a few years old and did a bit of sitting around doing nothing. Didn't bother with the coil since that's only a year old. After reading these I checked and have zero spark. Battery checks out, wires are proper and sound. Crap.

                            Anyone care to recommend a solid coil? What do you all have installed that has worked for over one year?

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                            • Nium
                              4th Gear
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 400

                              #15
                              Are the points gaped correctly? Is the low tension lead sound because on a 25D4 (domed cap) dizzy that does and will go bad and without that little 2 inches of wire the rig won't run the sparkplugs won't spark and the rig will die when the distributor advances. Before replacing anything else check the low tension lead to make sure it isn't broken and causing an intermittent open. If you have a 45D4 or Ducillier (s/p) dizzy the low tension lead is incorporated to the points so it is replaced with the points.
                              Walker
                              1968 Series IIA-"Ronnie"
                              88" SW, 2.25L Petrol, LHD

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