Spare Tire Mount?

[emmotto]

I'm wondering what I'm missing physically or mentally about the behind the middle seat tire mount? There is a fitting with a screw that can move up and down in an arc and a big thumbscrew on the end.

But when I drag my tire off the bonnet and try to mount it there (for maybe better weight distribution) there doesn't seem to be any way to make it attach to that fitting. What am I missing?

And while I'm on the subject - how are you supposed to mount the spare to the pie plate? I have 2 long bolts with 2 cast "dogs" on them and a locator post that sticks up from the pie plate but isn't long enough to go through a lug nut hole in the rim (215/85R16 tires). The dogs can catch the rim and hold it down but not neatly or cleanly - the whole thing seems wrong to me - like I might be missing something.

I'll try to get some pictures posted shortly.

[emmotto]

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[jonnyc]

Try flipping your tire over on the hood mount.

[JimCT]

spare tire dogs

the dogs in that photo are upside down. The long leg braces agasint the pieplate to hold the tire down.

Try flipping your tire over on the hood mount.

[disco2hse]

You need one of these:



From http://www.roversnorth.com/p-4253-cl...re-mount-.aspx

[I Leak Oil]

You need the part that Alan pointed out for the bulkhead mount. For the hood mount you need to flip the dogs upside down as was mentioned. But....Not sure what rims those are but the offset might be too much for the standard dogs.

[jonnyc]

I knew something looked flipped the wrong way!

[emmotto]

Flipping the tire over would only make things worse. The "outside" of the rim is facing down towards the bonnet.

There is no way the dogs could bear against the pie plate and also clamp on the rim.

Maybe this design was for much thinner tires? These are 215/85R16



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[rof]

Have you thought about a rear door mount? I don't have the hold downs for the bonnet mount and have been looking for parts to add a rear door mount. If you can find the parts, that may be an option.

[emmotto]

LOL!

Don't have a rear door! Soft top with tailgate...

Although I am fixing p a hardtop for he winter....

Thanks.


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[ArlowCT]

If you do any offloading be careful with the rear door mount. We bent a rear door real bad doing some wheelin one time up in Nova Scotia.

What size tire makes a big difference on how well it fits on the bonnet. The post should be inserted through one of the stud holes. You can even put a pin through the hole in the post to hold the tire in place if the dogs come loose. Not sure if my memory is right but I feel having a deluxe bonnet makes the problem worse.

[stomper]

The tire size isn't your problem, it is the wheel you have as a spare. it has too much off set as compared to the original. They look like discovery steel wheels to me. That is why your locating pin doesn't poke through the wheel stud hole, and why your dogs don't fit accordingly.

Flip over the dogs as was mentioned earlier, and then cut out a piece of wood to go under the leg of the dog and your hood. that will allow it to sit correctly, as long as your tie down bolts are long enough. Some people have used old hockey pucks to make this spacer, which I think is ideal, but expirement with wood first to get the right shape and thickness first.

[emmotto]

The tire size isn't your problem, it is the wheel you have as a spare. it has too much off set as compared to the original. They look like discovery steel wheels to me. That is why your locating pin doesn't poke through the wheel stud hole, and why your dogs don't fit accordingly.

Flip over the dogs as was mentioned earlier, and then cut out a piece of wood to go under the leg of the dog and your hood. that will allow it to sit correctly, as long as your tie down bolts are long enough. Some people have used old hockey pucks to make this spacer, which I think is ideal, but expirement with wood first to get the right shape and thickness first.

Thanks Stomper -

But if that is the issue - the rim lug mounting flange is offset too much and hence too high off the top of the pie plate to use the dogs in the manner that most people are recommending - putting something under the dogs would solve the problem - but that makes me wonder if all those people have the wrong rims as well?

Is my spare useable with a different offset? ie; if I need to put it on the truck will the offset cause a problem (steering, clearance etc)? The rim is a "NATO" rim with the holes around the outer section instead of the slots of a regular rim. I've never actually mounted it on the truck (other than on the bonnet).

[stomper]

Many people run oversized tires or wheels with different offsets, and what I described with the hockey pucks is the way many people get arount this dilemma. Others will go to the military tie-downs, which is a different beast all together. It is a series of three webbed straps which anchor the tire down. If you went with a different offset for your spare, I don't believe there would be any issues, as long as the diameter and the tire were the same as your road wheels. The little doughnut spares on a modern car don't seem to make any difference when used for a short emergency distance.

I believe they also made two different types of hold down dogs. One has a longer leg to accomodate the larger tires put on to the 109 models, but I could be wrong on that one. others may know better. Regardless, good luck finding them if they exist, as they are NLA. the hold down bolts are another kunumdrum people have had with oversized or different offset tires. If the bolt is too short to secure the dog on the tire, the thread is a british standard fine thread, and the head is oversized to allow for the same wrench that undoes the lug nuts to work on the spare bolts. they don't make these bolts easy to replace.

[Andrew IIA]

Just adding this to the ideas already put forth. I have a large spare on a D110 wheel: I use a Defender bonnet mount spare hold-down on my dished deluxe bonnet, using orig pie plate; it is simple and more secure than the Series type.

I don't have a pic handy (will take one later). Looks like this, but inverted.