Still considering longer front shackles on my SIII 109"

[Stolidog]

If your redoing the front horns and are thinking about playing around with your hangers put on a pair of jeep yj springs. There not as long as the rear springs that some people put up front that seem to stick way out in font of the bumper but land just under. They still are about 10" longer than the stock rover springs and give you a great ride. I put in old man EMU 2 1/2 lift springs and gave me about that much lift on my front end. Made my
Spring hanger so I could still unbolt my bumper. Have lots of pictures if your interested. Also in my series 3 run a 200tdi, Ike front bumper with winch and sliders so my front end is heavy
Also I run parabolics in the rear

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[bullstanky]

You want to have a shackle located at both the front and back of the front springs? If so, that won't work. You need a fixed mounting point at the front of the spring. Maybe I'm not understanding exactly what it is you want to do at the front of the springs.

Oh yes, I'm adding a shackle at the front end of the front spring. The plates on both sides of the new shackles on the front end of the front spring will be welded to the old spring mounts on the horn, creating the fixed mounting point needed. Repurposing and welding up shackles seems easier than fabricating a part to drop the front spring mounts to keep everything in alignment.

[JimCT]

strength

not sure the shackles will be strong enough without somehow boxing them in. Lot of side load in turns and side hills

Oh yes, I'm adding a shackle at the front end of the front spring. The plates on both sides of the new shackles on the front end of the front spring will be welded to the old spring mounts on the horn, creating the fixed mounting point needed. Repurposing and welding up shackles seems easier than fabricating a part to drop the front spring mounts to keep everything in alignment.

[bullstanky]

not sure the shackles will be strong enough without somehow boxing them in. Lot of side load in turns and side hills

You make a good point. I'll likely have to box the shackles in and triangulate from the side of each shackle plate back to the horn. All the same, I think it's going to work out better working from shackles as a starting point rather than grindind the spring mounts off and fabricating something new, because the shackle set up will allow me to get everything in alignment before I weld it up.

And if I decide to take them off one day I can more or less just grind off the welds and take the shackles off.

[jac04]

Make sure to post pictures of this modification when complete.

[bullstanky]

I haven't the touched the springs, but I did put the military shackles on, using a shim to re-align the prop-shaft angle. It did give me a little more lift in the front, and drives fine, but I still have a good bit of rake from front to back.

I'm hoping that when I put the safari top and rack back on the weight helps even things out a bit.