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  • Contractor
    1st Gear
    • Jan 2013
    • 127

    Top Removal and Seatbelts

    The top removal thread below made me think about this as I'm considering pulling the top for the summer. What do you guys do about seatbelts when the top is off?

    Mine seam to be mounted to the side of the top to allow for shoulder straps.

    Suggestions or pictures would be a huge help.
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  • jdesigns2001
    Low Range
    • Feb 2013
    • 17

    #2
    I bolt mine to a roll bar that I install when the top is off. This would be a good excuse to get a roll bar for your Rover! I got mine from a gentleman in Tennessee who is no longer in business, but I think you can still find them elsewhere. As another option, I want to say that I have seen the third point bolted to hoops screwed into a reinforcing steel plate under the capping directly behind the front seats, but after all seat belts don't help much if you turn it over without a roll bar.

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    • stomper
      5th Gear
      • Apr 2007
      • 889

      #3
      There are a few ways about going about this. many people either remove the seatbelts while the top is off, some install lap belts, others use a static shoulder belt. they are all available through our hosts. The best option would probably to use one of these. http://landroverparts.roversnorth.co...R029312&type=0

      Still, as jdesigns says, in a roll over, there is no protection without a roll bar with any of the options I just mentioned.
      Bad gas mileage gets you to some of the greatest places on earth.

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      • Kiloengineer
        Low Range
        • Dec 2011
        • 59

        #4
        I have static belts that just mount to the seat bulkhead, simple. Works with full top, cab top and soft top.
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        • LaneRover
          Overdrive
          • Oct 2006
          • 1743

          #5
          I also have a truck that the seatbelts mount to the bulkhead. One other issue is compression of the spine as (unless you are quite short) your shoulder is above the mounting point for top of the seatbelt. I would argue that dealing with compression of the spine might be the less bad alternative to trying to extricate you from the steering wheel/windshield/car you hit etc . . .
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          • crankin
            5th Gear
            • Jul 2008
            • 696

            #6
            I too have a truck that you can mount the seatbelt to the bulk head (picture).

            Its a pain to lean forward on and you can really feel it pull you down when you are heavy on the brakes. I move mine to the top when not running topless.
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            • VTRover
              3rd Gear
              • Feb 2007
              • 340

              #7
              North of $400 is a TON of $$$ for OEM welded tubes. Exmoor has one for around $250.00. It's easy to fit and will offer much better protection than a belt mounted to the bulkhead.

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              • busboy
                2nd Gear
                • Nov 2012
                • 202

                #8
                I removed my roll cage last year I figured after 30 odd years and never having used it once why bother , the roll cage just added to the upper body weight and to be honest the rover doesn't have as much body roll in corners. My belts have always been mounted to the bulkhead, I found after lowering the seats so I can see the stop lights the belts work much better.
                1971 series 2a 88, series 3 trans, Fairey OD, owned since 1978.

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                • Myron
                  Low Range
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 95

                  #9
                  I just took my top off again for the summer after not having done this for at least ten years. I had to remember how it all came apart, and the seatbelt change is important to get right. With the top on, I use the rotors that mount to the top rail of the tub at an angle. The swivel mounts to the top and closer to the door.

                  With the top off, I use the rotors that mount in the vertical plane to the middle bulkhead just behind the seats. The swivel/slide mounts to the military seatbelt bar. I'm not sure these are still made, but it works very well, and eliminates the spine compression issue. Kind of looks like a mini roll bar, but of course offers no protection in a roll over. It's just a mounting point for the swivels.

                  OP, if you'd like a more close up picture, PM me your contact details.

                  Myron



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                  • Jim-ME
                    Overdrive
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 1379

                    #10
                    I run static lap belts year round. Something is better than nothing at all.
                    Jim

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                    • Contractor
                      1st Gear
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 127

                      #11
                      Thanks for all of the replies.

                      Myron, sending you a PM.
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                      • o2batsea
                        Overdrive
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 1199

                        #12
                        Food for thought; scott's 88 crash from Sunday:







                        Creamed by a Benz at 50mph.

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                        • amcordo
                          5th Gear
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 740

                          #13
                          Is everyone OK?

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                          • o2batsea
                            Overdrive
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 1199

                            #14
                            Battered but OK, yes.

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                            • cedryck
                              5th Gear
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 836

                              #15
                              What a mess, hope no one was hurt. I had a horrifying experience crossing a main way in town, nearly creamed by some pocket rocket doing 80 in a 35 zone, scary,, where seat belts,

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