Recalibrating fuel gauge

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  • IIA
    1st Gear
    • Apr 2010
    • 158

    Recalibrating fuel gauge

    A few months ago I had a new gas tank installed. Everything attached to it was replaced too including the sender. But the gauge on the dash was not replaced. Shortly afterwards the gauge started acting up. Now when it reads "empty" I only need to put in about 6 gallons to get the needle to full. I know it's really full (after over filling the tank!) so I assume the tank must be at about 1/2 when the needle is at empty.

    Any suggestions on what's going on and how to fix it? (This is a petrol, 1970, 88", IIA)
    1970 Series IIA
    1964 Series IIA [sold]
  • I Leak Oil
    Overdrive
    • Nov 2006
    • 1796

    #2
    Is your new sender compatable with the old gauge? That's where I would start. If the two aren't speaking the same language then they just aren't going to be able to work as a team. So do you have the old sender? If so, put it in and see if the problem goes away.
    Jason
    "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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    • o2batsea
      Overdrive
      • Oct 2006
      • 1199

      #3
      Spiyda Design fuel gauge wizard:

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      • SafeAirOne
        Overdrive
        • Apr 2008
        • 3435

        #4
        Also,, make sure you have the power wire and the ground wire on the right terminal(s) on the sender--Strange readings happen when they're swapped.
        --Mark

        1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

        0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
        (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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        • siiirhd88
          3rd Gear
          • Oct 2006
          • 369

          #5
          This is very detailed fuel gauge info from a G&R board posting:



          Bob

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          • SafeAirOne
            Overdrive
            • Apr 2008
            • 3435

            #6
            Originally posted by siiirhd88
            This is very detailed fuel gauge info from a G&R board posting:

            http://www.series2club.co.uk/forum/f...c,24221.0.html
            Series 2 club posting, I suspect.
            --Mark

            1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

            0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
            (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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            • siiirhd88
              3rd Gear
              • Oct 2006
              • 369

              #7
              Yes, but found via the G&R board.

              Originally posted by SafeAirOne
              Series 2 club posting, I suspect.

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              • IIA
                1st Gear
                • Apr 2010
                • 158

                #8
                I finally got time to pull the fuel sender out of the tank. It's got a small amount of fuel inside the float. I assume that's not right but correct me if appropriate. Also, I noticed that it has 2 wires, like the diesel pictured in the link you posted. My LR is petrol, which the picture shows having only 1 connection. Does mean I have the wrong sender?
                1970 Series IIA
                1964 Series IIA [sold]

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                • siii8873
                  Overdrive
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1013

                  #9
                  it should work. The second terminal is for a low fuel warning light. More critical with a diesel from what I understand.
                  Can't remeber the letters next to the terminals but remember it was fairly obvious which was which
                  THING 1 - 1973 88 SIII - SOLD
                  THING 2 -1974 88 SIII Daily Driver - SOLD
                  THING 3 - 1969 88 SIIA Bugeye Project
                  THING 4 - 1971 109 SIIA ExMod - SOLD
                  THING 5 - 1958 109 PU
                  THING 6 - 1954 86" HT

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                  • Les Parker
                    RN Sales Team - Super Moderator
                    • May 2006
                    • 2020

                    #10
                    T = Transmitter

                    W = Low fuel warning


                    Hope this helps.
                    Les Parker
                    Tech. Support and Parts Specialist
                    Rovers North Inc.

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                    • IIA
                      1st Gear
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 158

                      #11
                      My IIA doesn't have a low fuel light, but there are two wires connected to the sender. I haven't tried tracing the wire connected to the W connector (and probably wouldn't understand what I found anyway). What could the "W" wire be for if not the warning light? Just a ground wire?
                      1970 Series IIA
                      1964 Series IIA [sold]

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                      • o2batsea
                        Overdrive
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 1199

                        #12
                        The wiring for the low fuel light is probably there behind the dash. W is indeed the low fuel light wire. Only diesels had the warning lamp connected. On petrol it is replaced by the choke lamp, if I am not mistaken.

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                        • SafeAirOne
                          Overdrive
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 3435

                          #13
                          Note that there are also some cam-lock-type senders (as opposed to senders that are attached to the tank with 6 screws) with integrated fuel pickup tubes that have 2 terminals but no low fuel warning circuit. The insulated terminal gets the wire from the gauge and the non-insulated wire gets a ground wire from the vehicle body. Not original equipment on SIIAs but tanks are pretty interchangeable.

                          --Mark

                          1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                          0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                          (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                          • Fraserb
                            Low Range
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 11

                            #14
                            Originally posted by IIA
                            My IIA doesn't have a low fuel light, but there are two wires connected to the sender. I haven't tried tracing the wire connected to the W connector (and probably wouldn't understand what I found anyway). What could the "W" wire be for if not the warning light? Just a ground wire?
                            just sorted my fuel sender/gauge issues on my IIa.
                            Mine has the 6 bolt sender with two terminals.
                            don't recall what the letters on the terminals were but there should only be 1 wire connected to the sender (unless the 2nd is going to a low warning light) the correct terminal is the central one, the sender doesn't need a ground wire, the sender grounds thru the body of the sender which is screwed to the tank, which is bolted to the chassis, but well worth checking the grounding of the tank as what I have found is most of the electrical issues with mine have been poor grounding or worse, intermittent grounding!

                            the issue mine had was showing full or pretty much full, even when not much in the tank, then dropping to nothing, previous owner solved it by simply roadside topping up from a jerry can kept on hand. IMHO not ideal!!

                            I spent many hours over many days tracing wires and checking connections on the spaghetti fest of many previous owners various colored wire patches, then running new wires to ensure a constant feed, finally got feed up and pulled the sender out *blush* and the wire had been connected to the wrong terminal and the weird readings were coming from the low fuel light contact that was bent and must have contacting for part of the travel of the float.

                            Oh how I laughed.
                            The problem with the world is that intelligent people are full of doubts, While the stupid ones are full of confidence.

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