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  • clearcut
    2nd Gear
    • Jul 2014
    • 233

    Left rear tire will not move..

    Had to tow it home.

    This is a 1967 Nada. The records I have on it, show no work done on either front end and rear end gears

    Would you rebuild?

    Would you replace?

    Any direction would be great.



    Thanks

    josh
    1967 Land Rover 109
    1966 Land Rover 109

    Joshua Tyler
  • darbsclt
    1st Gear
    • Jul 2013
    • 162

    #2
    Man Clearcut... you're having some bad luck today!

    Are you sure you don't simply have a seized brake drum?
    Anyway, I'd check all the drums throughly first.

    Nice looking 109, BTW. If it's the one I'm thinking of... it was heading to auction.
    Is that where you picked it up?

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    • bugeye88
      1st Gear
      • Apr 2013
      • 167

      #3
      Clear cut,

      Sounds like a planetary gear failure in the diff. Did you spin a wheel and then have it grip or something like that? Also could be a axel failure that had some scrapnel get lodged in the diff. Plan on pulling the diff/axels for a look.

      Rob
      Bugeye88

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      • clearcut
        2nd Gear
        • Jul 2014
        • 233

        #4
        Yes was the one at auction. Bought from that buyer. Just drove it 160 miles on friday. I have taken all the extra stuff off it
        It still has the battery charger. Those extra lights, in steel boxes. Took out all the extra in the back.

        25 gallons of water coolers, refer, and freezer too.

        It has a 40 amp 12V amp, still have to find what it does..

        One heavy steel box, two sets of tire chains never used

        Compas, fans on dash, could not even see speedo...

        Does have a over drive unit

        josh
        1967 Land Rover 109
        1966 Land Rover 109

        Joshua Tyler

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        • clearcut
          2nd Gear
          • Jul 2014
          • 233

          #5
          Yes, I have drive from hell.... Back up this am, cold start..

          Motor was stalling out..

          I was easy at first.

          Move more forward, gave have move power, then heard wheel spin.. Drove ok for a 1/4 mile.. Took time to get home

          slowed down. start it up for a few forward the backward. all was ok

          Took for a drive, then I was done

          Tow truck took a long time getting it on truck

          Got it home.

          Just drove it foward, went about 5 feet, then stopped.

          Need to think about what next.

          so would you rebuild diff, or just buy all new?

          Would the front diff have the some issue

          Just aged out?

          thanks
          1967 Land Rover 109
          1966 Land Rover 109

          Joshua Tyler

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          • stomper
            5th Gear
            • Apr 2007
            • 889

            #6
            Before you start considering replacing stuff, pull it apart and see what you have wrong. Could be a jammed brake shoe, a snapped axle bound up, or even a binding emergency brake for all we know.
            Bad gas mileage gets you to some of the greatest places on earth.

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            • SafeAirOne
              Overdrive
              • Apr 2008
              • 3435

              #7
              Well, you can categorically rule out any planetary gear failures anywhere on a Series Rover:



              Just drove it foward, went about 5 feet, then stopped.

              Need to think about what next.

              so would you rebuild diff, or just buy all new?

              Would the front diff have the some issue
              What, in your description of the events you're experiencing, makes you believe that it is a bad diff?

              Just take it ("IT" being the wheel, brakes and, if necessary, axle shaft, then hub) apart and figure out what's wrong. Nobody can tell you what's wrong with it or what you should do about it through the internet. It's the sort of thing where you have to be there in person with a wrench in your hand.
              --Mark

              1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

              0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
              (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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              • SafeAirOne
                Overdrive
                • Apr 2008
                • 3435

                #8
                Just drove it foward, went about 5 feet, then stopped.
                What does this mean? Did it stop moving forward and bog down the engine, like it was being restrained or was everything otherwise hunky-dory?--engine ticking along or revving away as if there was no load on it?

                Was the left rear wheel scorching-hot immediately after this happened?
                --Mark

                1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                • SafeAirOne
                  Overdrive
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 3435

                  #9
                  BTW: A failure of a differential component is much more likely to result in no power to either wheel as opposed to one wheel locking while the other is powered. Not always--there are a few uncommon failures that could enable one wheel to still be powered, I suppose, but to have one powered and the other locked up as a result of a differential failure is pretty low on the list possibilities, if you ask me.

                  My attention would be on:

                  1) brakes
                  2) wheel bearings
                  3) axle shaft
                  4) differential

                  ...in that order.

                  Of course, once you have the brake drum off, your problem will become ultra-easy to figure out.
                  --Mark

                  1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                  0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                  (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                  • bugeye88
                    1st Gear
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 167

                    #10
                    The give away here was that the "wheel spin" part of your description. The two weakest components of the drive system are the axles and the 2 planetary diff. Both of these are loaded to excess with wheel spin followed by wheel making contact. So axel or diff take your pick, you'll have to get in,there to find out which it is. Best of luck and let us know what you find.

                    Cheers,
                    Rob
                    Bugeye88

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                    • clearcut
                      2nd Gear
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 233

                      #11
                      Here is the first update.

                      Looks like the transfer case ran dry.. Metal came out of with very little oil.. There was oil like film on underside and back windows


                      May need a whole new one.

                      Where would you find one if you needed one.

                      thanks
                      1967 Land Rover 109
                      1966 Land Rover 109

                      Joshua Tyler

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                      • darbsclt
                        1st Gear
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 162

                        #12
                        Parts for the T-case are available through this forum's host...

                        If you are looking for a replacement - THESE are the nicest I've seen - with a price to match (though I have no experience with them).

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                        • bugeye88
                          1st Gear
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 167

                          #13
                          Clearcut,

                          Wow, metal particles and very little oil! A testament to checking and keeping fluid levels up, these things leak. Hope that is the only low oil area, good time to check them all. A new transfer case is certainly in order.

                          Rob
                          Bugeye88

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                          • I Leak Oil
                            Overdrive
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 1796

                            #14
                            So let me get this straight. The transfer case is junk and only the left rear tire won't move?
                            Jason
                            "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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                            • SafeAirOne
                              Overdrive
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 3435

                              #15
                              Originally posted by I Leak Oil
                              So let me get this straight. The transfer case is junk and only the left rear tire won't move?
                              Thanks. I didn't want to be the first one to point out that this "cause" doesn't fit the symptoms described.
                              --Mark

                              1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                              0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                              (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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