Question on my IIa's Heater...

[Leslie]

Gentlemen, you know as well as I do that Rover doesn't go strictly by model years....

The bugeye began in that latter half of '68, and the transition ended with the late IIa w/ the stampings in place before the end of '69.

"Hey Doogan, hand me another bit out of that bin!" "It's empty, Angus! But this other bin has the older type still in it...." "That'll do, then...."

You guys know I'm right......

[Luke]

As far as I know that is correct. The "late IIa" begins in 1970-1971, then the III started.

I have a 1971.

The "bug eye" was as far as I know 1969 only, until they got tooled up for the change. They just moved the headlights from the rad support to the fenders with no other changes, so they 'bug out' from the fenders a bit. Quite rare, as it was only the one year (and possibly not the entire year).

The change was driven by the Australian market I believe, where the headlights must not be so far in-board...

LOL - who actually knows..? I had a 'G' registered IIa with headlights in the wings, full pressings, the works. G reg was Aug 68 - Jul 69!

Cheers
Luke

[Luke]

Yep! As Leslie just said...

[Leslie]

Change from dual to single wiper was in '67.

Lights moved from radiator support panel to wings in '68.

Pressings of the front of the wings (non bygeye, late IIa) began in February '69.

Other changes that occurred around the same period ('67 t0 '69) was from gray to black seats, addition of sliding rails on the seats, the heater, the steering wheel, and, the change from being started with a push-button to actually using the key to start it.


FWIW...

[J!m]

Change from dual to single wiper was in '67.

Lights moved from radiator support panel to wings in '68.

Pressings of the front of the wings (non bygeye, late IIa) began in February '69.

Other changes that occurred around the same period ('67 t0 '69) was from gray to black seats, addition of sliding rails on the seats, the heater, the steering wheel, and, the change from being started with a push-button to actually using the key to start it.


FWIW...

And I'd like to add, in no particular order.

I used to be deep into older Chrysler (MOPAR) products, and you would often see the same things (although not to such an extent).

It almost seems as if there were several parallel lines running at any given time at LR, all making the same model, and one line may have a ton of part "X" while the other line ran out of that part last month and are now using the part "Y" instead, poerhaps stealing one from the other line once in a while just for fun... A better hope of nailing it down would be the VIN suffix, rather than the reg letter (in the UK) or "model year", as many mid-year (or more appropriately stated "when ever the hell we felt like it") changes took place, particularly in the late sixties/early seventies, when just about everyone owned Rover at one point or another...

Add to that the "Monday build" and "Friday build" factor, and well, all bets are off then!

[Bostonian1976]

oh yeah...my VIN is an H suffix...just to really confuse the issue

my front wings definitey look as though they've been replaced though.

I would be VERY VERY VERY interested in my truck's history...

she's purdy, regardless of what the history is though...

[landi41]

Nice little Series, I had one very similar to yours......sorry i ever sold it !!

[Leslie]

The NADA IIa's a t least oriinally had a piece of soft vinyl trim to cover the duct but I can't find a new one to replace mine. If you check the previous posts you will see the part numbers provided by our hosts.

That vinyl trim is visible here:





FWIW.....

[Tdi Guy]

That is the same heater control cable on my IIa. How have any of you guys connected the end to the RN mansfield heater valve? Any Ideas or pics that would help

[Bostonian1976]

I have no heater control....mine's either on or off lol

[Jeff Aronson]

Most land rover heaters except the "shinburner" are fresh air units. If you are really cold you could modify the air intake to pull preheated air from your interior just like recirculate on later cars. I have seen this done on rovers in NW Canada, but I can't remember the actual setup except the air in was in the passenger footwell.

I have seen the heater distribution box pictured on a few rovers, I think rover even sold it as a kit because I have seen them on older S2 rovers or the owner retro-fitted them.

If you are looking for info on Kodiaks heaters try HERE.

You have one of the rarer transitional Land Rovers, based on the interior of your car. The dashboard resembles that of the early II-A, but the black fascia and the Leyland style toggle switches and gauges indicate it's the same as the "bugeye," as noted earlier.

My two '66 Land Rovers have two different heaters; one came with the Kodiak unit and the other started with the Kodiak but was converted to the Rovers North Mansfield heater. The former does not have an intake hole in the wing; the latter requires it as a fresh air intake.

Both work well, but the Mansfield heater is so effective that it really needs the two speed blower. When it's above freezing, there's too much heat from the Mansfield if I have the blower motor on "high." With effective door seals, the Mansfield heater makes the car very usable without much pain even in the coldest of northern New England temperatures. Also, it exchanges heat so well that I have to install a summer thermostat in the warmer weather to preclude overheating. The winter thermostat is perfect for warming up the temperature that much higher for effective heating this time of year.

My Kodiaks had only the twin doors to provide additional warmth for the passenger. My Mansfield installation uses the Kodiak heater box in the passenger compartment for a more "original' look.

Stay warm!

Jeff